Warrenty Turbo void
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Warrenty Turbo void
Hey guys,
new to the forum, was on e46 fanatics (BMW) before and the atmosphere on here is completly different! in a good way tho lol!
anyways i just bought a 2nd gen scion TC looking for a turbo or SC that doesnt void the warrenty. or is reliable that will not cause too many problems....
thanks
Chris
new to the forum, was on e46 fanatics (BMW) before and the atmosphere on here is completly different! in a good way tho lol!
anyways i just bought a 2nd gen scion TC looking for a turbo or SC that doesnt void the warrenty. or is reliable that will not cause too many problems....
thanks
Chris
http://www.trdsparks.com/warrant_aft..._products.html
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Again, this depends on your dealer. If they are like the one closest to me (not where I bought the car, should have known not to go there for service) this is all you will ever hear
" Your (insert problem here) are out/broken/rattling, because you put that aftermarket (insert 100% unrelated mod here) on the car."
A dealership will do almost anything to prove that your aftermarket accessory (even a TRD part that was not installed by a dealership) caused the issue and thus the issue does not fall under a warranty repair.
You can push the issue and make them prove it, but when it comes down to it, are you willing to let them sit on your car for X days (or weeks) to diagnose an issue, just to run you around and around in circles, in hopes you will go away and they do not need to honor the warranty for said issue? It is your time, if you are willing to do it, go for it.
If you want to go FI, just accept that you won't be taking the car to the dealer for much of any work.
You can push the issue and make them prove it, but when it comes down to it, are you willing to let them sit on your car for X days (or weeks) to diagnose an issue, just to run you around and around in circles, in hopes you will go away and they do not need to honor the warranty for said issue? It is your time, if you are willing to do it, go for it.
If you want to go FI, just accept that you won't be taking the car to the dealer for much of any work.
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A dealership will do almost anything to prove that your aftermarket accessory (even a TRD part that was not installed by a dealership) caused the issue and thus the issue does not fall under a warranty repair.
You can push the issue and make them prove it, but when it comes down to it, are you willing to let them sit on your car for X days (or weeks) to diagnose an issue, just to run you around and around in circles, in hopes you will go away and they do not need to honor the warranty for said issue? It is your time, if you are willing to do it, go for it.
If you want to go FI, just accept that you won't be taking the car to the dealer for much of any work.
You can push the issue and make them prove it, but when it comes down to it, are you willing to let them sit on your car for X days (or weeks) to diagnose an issue, just to run you around and around in circles, in hopes you will go away and they do not need to honor the warranty for said issue? It is your time, if you are willing to do it, go for it.
If you want to go FI, just accept that you won't be taking the car to the dealer for much of any work.
Clean_XB is correct with the dealer having to prove the after market part is responsible for the issue, they can't just say it is. My dealer tried to tell me any non-TRD part would void warranty automatically but that is BS
ALL FALSE. A dealer will only do what you allow them to.
See Moss/Magnuson Act. Burden is on the dealer to PROVE why said aftermarket part voided and caused failure. Simply "voiding warranty" automatically carries a serious offense, up to and including a lawsuit.
This happened to me about 10 years ago with GM.
A simple call to the BBB and a certified private mechanics *opinion* was enough to make general motors have to pay for my original factory defect, and all my costs included for "downtime", including lost wages.
The best part is that arbitration is free, no attorney is needed in that stage.
a dealership CANNOT void your warranty simply because an aftermarket part is physically visible.
Find a good service writer, with a good dealership to avoid the headaches.
For everyone in socal, So Bay Toyota/Scion is great because descendant racing is down the block ;)
See Moss/Magnuson Act. Burden is on the dealer to PROVE why said aftermarket part voided and caused failure. Simply "voiding warranty" automatically carries a serious offense, up to and including a lawsuit.
This happened to me about 10 years ago with GM.
A simple call to the BBB and a certified private mechanics *opinion* was enough to make general motors have to pay for my original factory defect, and all my costs included for "downtime", including lost wages.
The best part is that arbitration is free, no attorney is needed in that stage.
a dealership CANNOT void your warranty simply because an aftermarket part is physically visible.
Find a good service writer, with a good dealership to avoid the headaches.
For everyone in socal, So Bay Toyota/Scion is great because descendant racing is down the block ;)
I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm saying that if you go out and install a turbo on your car you will have to accept that you will be spending a great deal of your time to have a factory 'defect' corrected.
If you want minimal headaches, don't install one. If you want to install the turbo, then expect headaches.
Clean_XB I'd love to know, how much time was involved from start to finish to have your issue resolved with GM and have a fully working car back to you?
If you want minimal headaches, don't install one. If you want to install the turbo, then expect headaches.
Clean_XB I'd love to know, how much time was involved from start to finish to have your issue resolved with GM and have a fully working car back to you?
I totally get your point, just saying, so the OP knows... they may be in for that sort of legwork.
If you are going to invest $5-6k in adding a turbo onto the tC2, however much you may spend for dyno/tuning runs etc... just know you may be in for a long haul with the dealer to fix an issue.
If you want to keep it simple, don't boost it until your warranty is done. If you need to boost it now, go for it, but get yourself aligned with a good dealership as pointed out above.
If you are going to invest $5-6k in adding a turbo onto the tC2, however much you may spend for dyno/tuning runs etc... just know you may be in for a long haul with the dealer to fix an issue.
If you want to keep it simple, don't boost it until your warranty is done. If you need to boost it now, go for it, but get yourself aligned with a good dealership as pointed out above.
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+1 on getting a certified third-party mechanic to assess. I did not do that and went to arbitration over hydrolock from a TRD cold air intake. On the xB1 it was not warrantied. I think it was for CARB certification and not anticipating hydrolock since the OEM airbox had an integrated charcoal filter.
Anyway, I lost and had to get the motor replaced. Dealer would have been close to $9k for a rebuilt head, new short block and install. Opted to do my own work w/ a $500 salvage motor. A year later, I found out Toyota put out a TSB that now warrantied the TRD CAI, but only for 04-05, not 06. I haven't bothered bringing it back up, not worth the fight.
Anyway, I lost and had to get the motor replaced. Dealer would have been close to $9k for a rebuilt head, new short block and install. Opted to do my own work w/ a $500 salvage motor. A year later, I found out Toyota put out a TSB that now warrantied the TRD CAI, but only for 04-05, not 06. I haven't bothered bringing it back up, not worth the fight.
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