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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DJHypnotic
I suggest getting a tC. The best scion of all.
Hey brother...we are a family here. Don't go pushin' us around saying your car is better than the xA or the xB. Ever seen the movie "Twins"? Well, in the Scion family it's "Triplets". Don't forget that the two "weaker" family members will always gang up on the "stronger" one.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jsa3mm
Originally Posted by DJHypnotic
I suggest getting a tC. The best scion of all.
Hey brother...we are a family here. Don't go pushin' us around saying your car is better than the xA or the xB. Ever seen the movie "Twins"? Well, in the Scion family it's "Triplets". Don't forget that the two "weaker" family members will always gang up on the "stronger" one.
lol. I never looked at it that way.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 06:02 AM
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don't forget about the echo owners, we are kinda like xA/xB owners.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
Originally Posted by KangaRod
what the hell did you spend $20,000 on and have no power mods, and now suddenly be totally concerned with living your life a quarter mile at a time (that saying never gets old)
I'll tell you what will make your car rediciously fast.
1) Ditch the $14000 stereo system
2) Ditch the $6000 chrome rims
If he really wants to make the box fast, this is how you make the box..FAST.

1. Remove all air condition parts.
2. Remove all panels, rear seats, replace front seats and bracets with light weight seats and bracket material.
3. Custom carbon fiber body kit and panels.
4. Replace all windows with JDM light weight windows. (forget the company who makes it. Someone on here had them but i forgot who it was)
5. Remove all stereo speakers, head unit.
6. P/E Supercharger or custom Turbo set up
7. Custom exhaust from header to tip using light weight materials. (most aftermarket set ups are light weight anyway)
8. Light weight wheels.
9. Remove spare tire, remove window wiper and remove window wiper motor.

You will be extremely light weight and have 130whp at least with a s/c and mods to go with it. With a turbo you could probably push around 145whp. You would weight im sure in the 1,500lbs range if not less.

Cya
unless the entire car's bopdy was cf it will be VERY ,. VERY hard to cut out 1000 pounds of curb weight..
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hotbox05
Originally Posted by killerxromances
Originally Posted by KangaRod
what the hell did you spend $20,000 on and have no power mods, and now suddenly be totally concerned with living your life a quarter mile at a time (that saying never gets old)
I'll tell you what will make your car rediciously fast.
1) Ditch the $14000 stereo system
2) Ditch the $6000 chrome rims
If he really wants to make the box fast, this is how you make the box..FAST.

1. Remove all air condition parts.
2. Remove all panels, rear seats, replace front seats and bracets with light weight seats and bracket material.
3. Custom carbon fiber body kit and panels.
4. Replace all windows with JDM light weight windows. (forget the company who makes it. Someone on here had them but i forgot who it was)
5. Remove all stereo speakers, head unit.
6. P/E Supercharger or custom Turbo set up
7. Custom exhaust from header to tip using light weight materials. (most aftermarket set ups are light weight anyway)
8. Light weight wheels.
9. Remove spare tire, remove window wiper and remove window wiper motor.

You will be extremely light weight and have 130whp at least with a s/c and mods to go with it. With a turbo you could probably push around 145whp. You would weight im sure in the 1,500lbs range if not less.

Cya
unless the entire car's bopdy was cf it will be VERY ,. VERY hard to cut out 1000 pounds of curb weight..
Thats what i waws saying. Front, rear, rear door, hood, roof, fenders, side skirts, rear doors, front doors. Everything as well as jdm light weight glass material. That should cut off a good 1,000lbs.. I would think. Close to it. Especially with the glass and doors. Hell, do all of what i said then do a motor swap to a 1zz s/c'd and you have yourself even a faster car.

Cya
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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so say i buy a 2zz or a 1zz or whatever and turbo it... how many horsies we talking? will it fit in the xB? and will i need to swap the tranny as well?

P.S. If i wanted to hard core race 1/4 miles i would just buy a 97 viper or a 69 super bee or an LPE or something...

I more or less dont wanna be embarrased when the 21 yr old in the Integra pulls up next to me at a stoplight and revs his engine :^Þ because for me little things like that are fun. i may occasionally take it to the track and time trial and stuff but meh... also i wanna get one of those stickers for the rear window that says, "You just got beat by a toaster!"
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by HuNTeRNIU
so say i buy a 2zz or a 1zz or whatever and turbo it... how many horsies we talking? will it fit in the xB? and will i need to swap the tranny as well?

P.S. If i wanted to hard core race 1/4 miles i would just buy a 97 viper or a 69 super bee or an LPE or something...

I more or less dont wanna be embarrased when the 21 yr old in the Integra pulls up next to me at a stoplight and revs his engine :^Þ because for me little things like that are fun. i may occasionally take it to the track and time trial and stuff but meh... also i wanna get one of those stickers for the rear window that says, "You just got beat by a toaster!"
Coming from an integra gs-r, and now driving an xb i would suggest that you keep the 1nz-fe. ZPI is going to be coming out with some stuff. Wait and see what happens before you blow your money on a new motor and tranny swap. Or, go ahead and get the power enterprise supercharger. Rebuild some of the bottom end issues, stage three clutch, maybe send your cam out to be regrind to a stage-two degree, and some other things. A box only would need around 130-140whp to not be embarassed by a typical integra. Most teggies have basic bolt ons with a piggy back. When i had mine, thats a different story. But your typical integra owner isn't going to have some outstanding motor build up and/or f/i. I'd say, a integra with 170whp, vs. a 140whp box. The box will be able to hang at least. Definitely enough to get some respect and props.

Do what you want, but if you really want to just smoke hondas go with a 1zz swap. From what i hear, you will need little to no modifications with engine mounts and tranny mounts. Turbo or super it, and with the right modifications to go with it my guess is you would be in the 180whp range. Easy. Hotbox was originally going to swap to a 1zz i believe. Talk to him about it.

Cya
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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You wanna make a quick box that will embarass a lot of stuff? make it like this dood's i found....



that will embarass most people in looks too!
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsuihousha
You wanna make a quick box that will embarass a lot of stuff? make it like this dood's i found....



that will embarass most people in looks too!
be more specific?
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 05:55 AM
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well, you peek over the hood and you see a blitz compressor. Lots of wrapped plumbing also. That big thing staring you in the face on the bottem is a front mount intercooler. You do the rest of the math =) i just randomly found the car somewhere and thought i would post it up because you can see that much, other then that i know nothing about it because tehre was no description.
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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whats the best place to get a 1zz ?

also whats diff btwn 1zz and 2zz and why go with 1 over 2?
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Where can i go to buy engines, pref in good shape. I was thinking baout a summer project and th eearlier posts talking about the 1.3 starlet motor seems like a good idea, im new to the rebuilding idea but if the moneys right i figure i can work at it.
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Where can i go to buy engines, pref in good shape. I was thinking baout a summer project and th eearlier posts talking about the 1.3 starlet motor seems like a good idea, im new to the rebuilding idea but if the moneys right i figure i can work at it.
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 12:44 AM
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would be really cool to see a box run low 12's.... hey a man can dream.
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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im curious which engines WOULD work/fit in the xB

is there a place you can read on that?

only curious!!
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:21 AM
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keyword "swap"

limit search relating to xA and xB
Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by xmetalx
Originally Posted by SamOnFire
Originally Posted by hotbox05
only fun comes from speed.
It is so wierd that you think that. Most of the fun I have in my box is when I'm parked.
HAH! i second that
So, what exactly are you doing when you are parked? Nm, don't answer that!
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