Help..P0172 and O2 Sensor..hard one..
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Help..P0172 and O2 Sensor..hard one..
Help. 2006 Scion xB RS 4.0 1.5L automatic 179k miles gas smell P0172 system too lean Bank 1 comes up on scanner as pending so you go about 60 miles before the light will come out saying P0133 O2 circuit slow response Bank 1 sensor 1 its had all injectors replaced 1 coil cause the previous owner said it had Cylinder 4 misfire and then all this starting happening he's done cat back OEM reg exhaust cat seems fine so ready live data I don't know how to read but a mechanic said its all reading right for most part. So here's the deal starts fine revs up down no issue idle is OK and its only every other time you go to take off and it like hesitates for a sec and then its good to go drives normal full power. I tried 2 O2 sensors in Bank 1 yet still throws the code slow response tried MAF and no difference so put old one on cleaned it with computer duster temp sensor plugs B12 Chemtool in the intake and in the tank and checked for vacuum leaks all looks good tried spraying starting fluid around intake and no difference to see if it was leaking I don't have much money left so I have put on a spark plug fouler for now and had that all put on just to try and get it to pass NYS inspection. I smell it running rich and just 50 miles on a new O2 sensor and its pure black must be from running rich. Help please.
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Last edited by MR_LUV; 11-27-2019 at 04:44 PM.
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Sounds like a thorough examination. P0172 is actually system too rich.
Since you didn't mention it, did you get a chance to check the air filter?
Here's a pretty good set of instructions to check and or test your oxygen sensor and air fuel ratio sensor. It's not vehicle specific but the theory is easy to comprehend.
https://repairpal.com/obd-ii-code-p0133
Since you didn't mention it, did you get a chance to check the air filter?
Here's a pretty good set of instructions to check and or test your oxygen sensor and air fuel ratio sensor. It's not vehicle specific but the theory is easy to comprehend.
https://repairpal.com/obd-ii-code-p0133
#4
Sounds like a thorough examination. P0172 is actually system too rich. Since you didn't mention it, did you get a chance to check the air filter?
Here's a pretty good set of instructions to check and or test your oxygen sensor and air fuel ratio sensor. It's not vehicle specific but the theory is easy to comprehend.
https://repairpal.com/obd-ii-code-p0133
Here's a pretty good set of instructions to check and or test your oxygen sensor and air fuel ratio sensor. It's not vehicle specific but the theory is easy to comprehend.
https://repairpal.com/obd-ii-code-p0133
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Last edited by MR_LUV; 11-27-2019 at 04:48 PM.
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I struggled with P0171 which is System Too Lean. I changed injectors, fuel pump, intake gasket, and checked for vacuum leaks. Nothing worked. I bought new MAF sensor and that didn't work either.
I ended up cleaning my old MAF sensor and reinstalling and that finally did the trick. By the end of it all I thoroughly cleaned the MAF sensor twice. Just my experience but perhaps our sensors are temperamental.
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I ended up cleaning my old MAF sensor and reinstalling and that finally did the trick. By the end of it all I thoroughly cleaned the MAF sensor twice. Just my experience but perhaps our sensors are temperamental.
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Last edited by MR_LUV; 12-02-2019 at 08:32 PM.
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If the injectors are suspect, consider asking the guy which injectors he installed. If you can get a part number, Google it for compatibility with your specific car. I'm not saying the guy's suspect however everybody makes mistakes.
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Last edited by MR_LUV; 12-02-2019 at 08:33 PM.
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You need to scan and post what the long term fuel trim is at (for idle and 2000RPM if possible) P0172 is triggered around +20%
Too rich fuel-to-air ratio. Your oxygen sensor is reporting this and you can smell gas so there is no arguing with the computer on this point. Possible reasons for this:
Too rich fuel-to-air ratio. Your oxygen sensor is reporting this and you can smell gas so there is no arguing with the computer on this point. Possible reasons for this:
- There is a leak in the fuel line before reaching injectors, system requests more and more because it's seeing too much oxygen in the exhaust. You can smell it because it's leaking. Is there any trace of gas on the ground when you park somewhere?
- fuel is not being burned in one or more cylinders and the system is requesting more and more, so much so that you can smell it. Check spark and timing
- There is a leak in the exhaust before the O2 sensor. The system can't measure correctly, and requests more and more fuel. You can usually hear these so that seems unlikely.
- Too much air getting into the system or an incorrect measurement on the air passing the MAF. Clean the MAF and Throttle body. Check for vacuum leaks.
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OP, did you ever get this sorted out? I am having a real similar issue and really struggling to get it straight. P0172, System too rich. Car bogs, stutters when attempting to accelerate from a stop. But it's seemingly random, sometimes it'll take off just fine. I've checked the air filter, changes plugs, cleaned the MAF & changed injectors.
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OP, did you ever get this sorted out? I am having a real similar issue and really struggling to get it straight. P0172, System too rich. Car bogs, stutters when attempting to accelerate from a stop. But it's seemingly random, sometimes it'll take off just fine. I've checked the air filter, changes plugs, cleaned the MAF & changed injectors.
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