P0441 Code
12-29-2017, 08:25 PM
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P0441 Code
Please stick with me on this, I’ve been searching non stop between Google and several forums (used the search on the forum) and can’t find anything specific enough for what I’m dealing with.
My girlfriend has an 06 xB that is 100% stock with 230k on it, she got it from her step dad in 2015 and maintainence has been questionable at best.
For the past year or so her car has had the VSC, Trac Off and CEL on, the code that Autozone got was P0174 which is Air/Fuel Mixture too lean Bank 2.
I bought my own scanner and didn’t get that but got P0441 which is Evaporative Emission Control System Incorrect Purge Flow.
Gas cap gasket seems fine, I can’t find and hoses with cracks, breaks or that are disconnected. The only thing I could find is a wire that broke free but not sure if it would throw the code(s).
I checked Live Data and nothing seems drastically out of range given the car and mileage.
Can someone look at the picture and tell me if this wire could possibly throw the code, we’re in a slight bind because she needs to register the car but can’t because she won’t pass inspection again.
Any help or direction would be appreciated because the only one trying to help her is the “Google/forum/YouTube mechanic” while her friends who are actually mechanics make no attempt at helping.
If anyone needs Live Data or spefic just let me know and I’ll post.
Thanks,
Last edited by MR_LUV; 12-29-2017 at 11:47 PM. Reason: typo
01-02-2018, 01:26 AM
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Please stick with me on this, I’ve been searching non stop between Google and several forums (used the search on the forum) and can’t find anything specific enough for what I’m dealing with.
My girlfriend has an 06 xB that is 100% stock with 230k on it, she got it from her step dad in 2015 and maintainence has been questionable at best.
For the past year or so her car has had the VSC, Trac Off and CEL on, the code that Autozone got was P0174 which is Air/Fuel Mixture too lean Bank 2.
I bought my own scanner and didn’t get that but got P0441 which is Evaporative Emission Control System Incorrect Purge Flow.
Gas cap gasket seems fine, I can’t find and hoses with cracks, breaks or that are disconnected. The only thing I could find is a wire that broke free but not sure if it would throw the code(s).
I checked Live Data and nothing seems drastically out of range given the car and mileage.
Can someone look at the picture and tell me if this wire could possibly throw the code, we’re in a slight bind because she needs to register the car but can’t because she won’t pass inspection again.
Any help or direction would be appreciated because the only one trying to help her is the “Google/forum/YouTube mechanic” while her friends who are actually mechanics make no attempt at helping.
If anyone needs Live Data or spefic just let me know and I’ll post.
Thanks,
01-02-2018, 01:48 AM
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actual part is
OEM Denso Toyota Lexus Scion Vacuum Switch Valve Purge Valve Part#90910-12276
really u just want the pigtail but if you can get valve and pigtail might as well replace. i got both for around $35 used . just want to make sure somehow wires are not dry and brittle before purchase, as that is what causes them to break in the first place.
OEM Denso Toyota Lexus Scion Vacuum Switch Valve Purge Valve Part#90910-12276
really u just want the pigtail but if you can get valve and pigtail might as well replace. i got both for around $35 used . just want to make sure somehow wires are not dry and brittle before purchase, as that is what causes them to break in the first place.
01-02-2018, 10:35 PM
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Hey, so I found the plug at my local junk yard, luckily for me it was from an 06 xB which is obviously preferred. I clipped the wire as far back as my hand could reach and spliced it using crimps for now because it’s too damn cold in the north east to try and solder outside right now. I cleared the CEL, all systems are online but the EVAP so here’s hoping. If not I’ll get a new VSV and try that, possible it’s dead after all this time being down. ::fingers crossed::
01-03-2018, 02:49 AM
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if you didnt already...id see what disconnecting the negative battery for a few minutes and reconnecting does. but id probably plan on changing out the purge valve.
good job on hunting down the wires btw. took awhile on mine...i crawled under car looking at canister and hoses several times. then after lots of googling and snooping around my car i found the wire snapped like yours. with new one i tried to ziptie the wire so it had minimal vibration.
good job on hunting down the wires btw. took awhile on mine...i crawled under car looking at canister and hoses several times. then after lots of googling and snooping around my car i found the wire snapped like yours. with new one i tried to ziptie the wire so it had minimal vibration.
01-05-2018, 07:57 PM
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Alrighty, due to some problems with kids in hospitals I had some delay in this. But I finally drove around today and the CEL popped on with VSC and Trac Off. But now I’m getting P0102 and no longer showing P0441. So I’m hoping that P0441 is finally clear.
lets get to tracking this down now.
lets get to tracking this down now.
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01-13-2018, 12:40 PM
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I would guess it's the crimped connections making intermittent contact. Soldering them up would be best. Used to be able to get that stuff at Radio shack, Ace hardware may be your only convenient local source now.
01-13-2018, 08:15 PM
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She’s likely trading it in after tax time, it’s 233k and it honestly wasn’t maintained by her step dad (although he claims it was). I’m still on the fence about doing brakes and the lower control arm because I don’t want to keep plugging time, money and blood if she’s trading in.But if she has it past tax time I’ll likely solder when it’s warmer and knock out all brakes and the control arm.
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