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Old 12-29-2017, 09:25 PM   #1
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Please stick with me on this, Iíve been searching non stop between Google and several forums (used the search on the forum) and canít find anything specific enough for what Iím dealing with.

My girlfriend has an 06 xB that is 100% stock with 230k on it, she got it from her step dad in 2015 and maintainence has been questionable at best.

For the past year or so her car has had the VSC, Trac Off and CEL on, the code that Autozone got was P0174 which is Air/Fuel Mixture too lean Bank 2.
I bought my own scanner and didnít get that but got P0441 which is Evaporative Emission Control System Incorrect Purge Flow.

Gas cap gasket seems fine, I canít find and hoses with cracks, breaks or that are disconnected. The only thing I could find is a wire that broke free but not sure if it would throw the code(s).

I checked Live Data and nothing seems drastically out of range given the car and mileage.

Can someone look at the picture and tell me if this wire could possibly throw the code, weíre in a slight bind because she needs to register the car but canít because she wonít pass inspection again.

Any help or direction would be appreciated because the only one trying to help her is the ďGoogle/forum/YouTube mechanicĒ while her friends who are actually mechanics make no attempt at helping.

If anyone needs Live Data or spefic just let me know and Iíll post.

Thanks,

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Please stick with me on this, Iíve been searching non stop between Google and several forums (used the search on the forum) and canít find anything specific enough for what Iím dealing with.

My girlfriend has an 06 xB that is 100% stock with 230k on it, she got it from her step dad in 2015 and maintainence has been questionable at best.

For the past year or so her car has had the VSC, Trac Off and CEL on, the code that Autozone got was P0174 which is Air/Fuel Mixture too lean Bank 2.
I bought my own scanner and didnít get that but got P0441 which is Evaporative Emission Control System Incorrect Purge Flow.

Gas cap gasket seems fine, I canít find and hoses with cracks, breaks or that are disconnected. The only thing I could find is a wire that broke free but not sure if it would throw the code(s).

I checked Live Data and nothing seems drastically out of range given the car and mileage.

Can someone look at the picture and tell me if this wire could possibly throw the code, weíre in a slight bind because she needs to register the car but canít because she wonít pass inspection again.

Any help or direction would be appreciated because the only one trying to help her is the ďGoogle/forum/YouTube mechanicĒ while her friends who are actually mechanics make no attempt at helping.

If anyone needs Live Data or spefic just let me know and Iíll post.

Thanks,
that will do it...same happen to my car about a year ago. i tried to solder it but wouldnt hold...found that plug piece on ebay with a pigtail that had enough to solder to.
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actual part is
OEM Denso Toyota Lexus Scion Vacuum Switch Valve Purge Valve Part#90910-12276

really u just want the pigtail but if you can get valve and pigtail might as well replace. i got both for around $35 used . just want to make sure somehow wires are not dry and brittle before purchase, as that is what causes them to break in the first place.
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Hey, so I found the plug at my local junk yard, luckily for me it was from an 06 xB which is obviously preferred. I clipped the wire as far back as my hand could reach and spliced it using crimps for now because itís too damn cold in the north east to try and solder outside right now. I cleared the CEL, all systems are online but the EVAP so hereís hoping. If not Iíll get a new VSV and try that, possible itís dead after all this time being down. ::fingers crossed::

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if you didnt already...id see what disconnecting the negative battery for a few minutes and reconnecting does. but id probably plan on changing out the purge valve.

good job on hunting down the wires btw. took awhile on mine...i crawled under car looking at canister and hoses several times. then after lots of googling and snooping around my car i found the wire snapped like yours. with new one i tried to ziptie the wire so it had minimal vibration.
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Alrighty, due to some problems with kids in hospitals I had some delay in this. But I finally drove around today and the CEL popped on with VSC and Trac Off. But now I’m getting P0102 and no longer showing P0441. So I’m hoping that P0441 is finally clear.

lets get to tracking this down now.

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An oil change cleared the CEL from P0012 and set the monitor to ready. Was able to get it to pass inspection but itís now showing a pending code for P0012 again.
Thanks for your help.
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I would guess it's the crimped connections making intermittent contact. Soldering them up would be best. Used to be able to get that stuff at Radio shack, Ace hardware may be your only convenient local source now.
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I would guess it's the crimped connections making intermittent contact. Soldering them up would be best. Used to be able to get that stuff at Radio shack, Ace hardware may be your only convenient local source now.
Sheís likely trading it in after tax time, itís 233k and it honestly wasnít maintained by her step dad (although he claims it was). Iím still on the fence about doing brakes and the lower control arm because I donít want to keep plugging time, money and blood if sheís trading in.But if she has it past tax time Iíll likely solder when itís warmer and knock out all brakes and the control arm.
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