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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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smokedby1nz Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:47 pm
In terms of weight reduction, the following is done: Carbon fiber hood, hatch, side pannels, no a/c, no radio or speakers, no backseats, no spare, jack or anything in the back, no air bags, rear wiper motor gone, front motor wiper gone, "light weight" battery.

How much wait would that take off? Subtract that weight from a Curb weight of 2450lb

so how about a lil math lets find out how much weight he dropped

2,450lb - 2,050lb = 400lb of weight dropped off his car...............

all in all how much did the stuff he took out weigh together? and vice versa for the stuff he put on

p.s. would they still let you run it on the track if you had no glass???
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hotbox05
i dont believe any of this. an xb that weighs 2050. what is it completely stripped. no interior , no bumper supports , no glass?
darren, he said no a/c, no headunit or speakers, and the interior is stripped except for two seats in the front.
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:06 AM
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i still dont believe that much weight was shed. what a waste of a 14k car. not even useable.
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:35 AM
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some people have alot of money...or at least sources for lots of money/parts.

*sigh*

I'm interested in seeing this xB in action...get some vid's man!
Old Feb 25, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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I believe that anything is possible and I am in no way an expert...I am just using these figures because weight and horsepower are close to what was used to achieve the 14.2 1/4 mile by smokedby1nz...These figures are from a Lotus Elise:

Standard Engine 1.8L 190 hp I4
Horsepower 190 @ 7800 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 138 @ 6800 RPM
1/4 mile 13.3 seconds @ 102.9 mph...

Now I know it is not the same car as the xB...I'm using it as an example...The weight of the Lotus is approx 1950 pounds where as smokedby1nz was 2050 pounds...Remeber, the Lotus is 190hp at the motor, not to the wheels...If smokedby1nz is putting down close to 160 to the wheels it is enirely possible that he is running 14.2's...I can't cait to see the vid's of an xB running in the 14's...
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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yes you are reading this correct! personally i wasnt expecting this, but im not complaining either! 212whp and 177wtq. after an exhausting few weeks of tuning and installing the stand alone, new injectors, new fuel rail, also have a new rod, and other adjustments. long nights have paid off.

went to the track yesterday, and i offically am happy. ran three times and fastest time i managed 12.9... right now i have custom axles and joints being made, as well as a few other things.
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 12:48 AM
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If this is for real,
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 01:20 AM
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I have no reason to doubt.
That curve is RIDICULOUS. Looks like it pulls like a ****.

Also, that A/F ratio doesnt look too sweet. I mean, thats a whole lotta fuel in the 4k range, but it looks like you got it set after 5.5k rpms. Its not driven on the street right?
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 02:01 AM
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deng man you so gotta make a vid of your car at the track it would b awsome (i think thats how you spell it haha) after all the things done is it still a daily driven car?
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 02:03 AM
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im assuming your the first xb in the 12s......gotta give you some props and now i really gotta do some driving to find me a RS1 with a carbon fiber hood haha
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 02:38 AM
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I don't know if this is street or not, but i seriously doubt it is being that in the previous pages he was talking about no a/c or anything. Basically stripped to the fullest. Smokedby1nz, have you thought about adding a few lbs back? It might help with some of the traction issues. 212whp is a crap load of whp for a light car. I think if you added some weight back, you could probably pull a better time.

Your a/f ratio is a little off before you hit 4,900rpm. Are you still having that fuel issue you spoke of earlier? Anything you plan to do to correct that?

Are you about done or are you wanting to do more? It sounds like your motor is 70-80% built. I don't know how much more you could do, especially since i don't know all the mods you have.

Oh, do you have a different s/c pulley? If so how much psi are you running? I'd love to see a video.
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 03:59 AM
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HOLY BAGEEZUS!!! Those numbers are incredble. I'm more than impressed. Hmmm, I'm curious though Justin, these mods that you can't talk about, do u know if they're available for the xa?
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 04:04 AM
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Gotta hand it to ya, running high12's in an xb. It's just mindblowing. Not to mention having 212 whp and 177wtq! Looking forward to any vids. Keep us posted!
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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h aha ha ., sure he is........ sure he is. and even if he is . he's running an echo main ecu with a piggyback or a racing standalone. which means , no more abs , no more vsc , no more trac.

he's also supposedly got even lower gears meaning 80mph is probably close to 5,000 or 6,000 rpm .

in other words it's a brand new non streetable uncomfortable , hardly useable waste of 15k plus the upgrades.

I still don't believe much of any of it. but yes it's possible but it's a waste of money and totally unstreetable.

he shouldda just went with a yaris or echo. lighter to start with. and if it's gutted and all that jazz with gearing and such who cares what it looks like if no one ever see's it cause tyou can't / won't take it on the street?
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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On the dybo graph, why do the HP and Torque not crossover at 5252 rpm? They don't cross untill 6400 or so, which is just wrong.

Dyno smells like B.S. to me.
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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how is it wrong? if he got valve springs, valves, cams, cam gears, crank and some other stuff his redline should of went up but thats assuming he did all that stuff
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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notice how everything is "assuming"
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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haha i know right..........
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:35 AM
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Sure, this could all be crap but first everyone wants a dyno sheet, bam its provided. Now everyone thinks its wrong or hes wrong, then you want a video. Then you guys will find something wrong about the video. Honestly, lighten up a bit guys. Sure, this may not be real and i understand that. However, i haven't seen him give any reason for us to doubt him as of yet so i say just believe it. Until something else comes up later that disproves everything, i'm going to say great job.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:50 AM
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exactly thank you, all u guys do is complain. his work doesnt affect you in any way! does it matter if its right or wrong. i believe its right, but hes put a lota work in it and i wonder how bad he feels from u guys bashing him. i am appluding him thank you for showing us that it can be done i jus wana see some walk throughs that i could do like injectors and what not!



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