Octane and F/I
#4
Re: Octane and F/I
Originally Posted by itsme
for you F/I guys out there what octane gas do you use? is high octane required for F/I for daily driving and so forth?
#5
why is it that you dont get a boost in power if you run premium without a turbo in a scion. on my pops 05 pathfinder when we switch back and forth it is a huge differnce and there no turbo on that either and its a relitivaly new car as well.
#6
Higher octane burns slower, and cooler. If you get a gain from using 93 in a car that isn't boosted, it's because your motor isn't running right to begin with and you are eliminating knock and gaining back timing advance.
Under boost, you need the slower cooler fuel to help compensate for the increased compression with the boost. Higher octane is less likely to predetonate under the increased compression.
Under boost, you need the slower cooler fuel to help compensate for the increased compression with the boost. Higher octane is less likely to predetonate under the increased compression.
#7
Originally Posted by TRDXA06
why is it that you dont get a boost in power if you run premium without a turbo in a scion. on my pops 05 pathfinder when we switch back and forth it is a huge differnce and there no turbo on that either and its a relitivaly new car as well.
#8
From rollhard-
"you need to run premium, and good premium if you go FI. For those who are not running FI, regular is best. You will get no benefit at all from premium."
I think that's only half right- the owner's manual specifies 87 octane, which is midgrade around here, and about right for the relatively high compression ratio. Regular is 85 octane, meaning that the knock sensor will tell the ecu to back off on the timing, reducing both performance and mileage... You're right that premium doesn't offer any real advantage...
My box purrs happily on midgrade Conoco...
"you need to run premium, and good premium if you go FI. For those who are not running FI, regular is best. You will get no benefit at all from premium."
I think that's only half right- the owner's manual specifies 87 octane, which is midgrade around here, and about right for the relatively high compression ratio. Regular is 85 octane, meaning that the knock sensor will tell the ecu to back off on the timing, reducing both performance and mileage... You're right that premium doesn't offer any real advantage...
My box purrs happily on midgrade Conoco...
#10
Originally Posted by chorobe
I agree you have to use good quality premium, I used to use Costco premium but going from that to a more well known brand made quite a difference, so I don't use the cheap stuff anymore.
#11
My Costco uses BP gas and it's $0.15 cheaper than anybody else.
#12
Originally Posted by Jhhnn
From rollhard-
"you need to run premium, and good premium if you go FI. For those who are not running FI, regular is best. You will get no benefit at all from premium."
I think that's only half right- the owner's manual specifies 87 octane, which is midgrade around here, and about right for the relatively high compression ratio. Regular is 85 octane, meaning that the knock sensor will tell the ecu to back off on the timing, reducing both performance and mileage... You're right that premium doesn't offer any real advantage...
My box purrs happily on midgrade Conoco...
"you need to run premium, and good premium if you go FI. For those who are not running FI, regular is best. You will get no benefit at all from premium."
I think that's only half right- the owner's manual specifies 87 octane, which is midgrade around here, and about right for the relatively high compression ratio. Regular is 85 octane, meaning that the knock sensor will tell the ecu to back off on the timing, reducing both performance and mileage... You're right that premium doesn't offer any real advantage...
My box purrs happily on midgrade Conoco...
#13
yeah, octane ratings and availability vary waaaaay too much depending on region in my opinion. here in DE, the typical regular is 83 or 85 . i usually end up putting 83 in my tank. super is 85-87 and premium is 91 . rarely are there stations with 93 or higher. sucks.
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