i think the AR was 10.7 to 11.2. The injector duty cycle was only arounf 77% or so at WOT. That was a few yrs ago, Both my 91 and 93 were stolen a stripped on a b-day few yrs ago. I miss those cars.....

I'll call ZPI and see what they can do about our crappy gas in CA

 

Im sorry but at 10.7 and 11.2 i cant see you making those numbers. If you were in the DSM game you probaby know my sn. My shop was next to BM tranny which is not Turbotrix. I also worked with Mike C at diamonstar specialties. The narrow band O2 that the datalogger reads off is not accurate at all. As for the turbo kits, look at the different options. Having own a dsm, you should be familiar with the mitsu turbos that greddy uses. I would check out all the different kits and then make your decision.

 

i got out of DSMs when my cars were stolen, I lost over 15k in mods alone, and really didn't want to put money back in them. Insurance only covered the cars value. Great way to wake up the day after your b-day. One car gone and the other completely stripped on rocks.....

I went through sooo many turbos, 14b port, big 16g, 18g, 20g and then ended up with the SC61. Worked great for the FWD, but was to much shifting in the AWD and that type of power band. Never got the AWD running completly good, only had it for 3 months.

I'm in debate of boosting the box or building another AWD DSM for the 1/8th track we have in SD. Tuning and fuel control are my real concerns, mechanics...well thats the easy part.

How well does your XB run on 91octane?

 

Sorry guys with the move we have been without internet for a bit but we are back now let me see if I can answer some of the questions and concerns. If I miss one please repost it, we are not avoiding it I just read three pages of concerns and may miss one.

AFR:
I do not remember the AFR exactly from our xB dyno but we tune all Scion in the mid to low 11 range on a custom tune here. We set up all base tunes that leave with kits in the 10’s. It is always RECOMMENDED to get the car custom tuned by a RELIABLE tuner to ensure the car is not safe and consistent in your local climate. The reason the dyno charts do not have a AFR on them is we use a in car wideband thus provides the most consistent and reliable results. Most dyno use sniffers in the tailpipe and we do not trust these results especially when tuning and setting up maps for the rest of the world to operate on.

Shipping:
We have had what we thought to be oil problem stumping us lately on Billy’s car. This has turned out to not be oiling problem at all but a bad set of turbos. We are reinstalling a new turbo today and should be good to go. We have the pipes to produce the kit in stock in quantity. We have the intercooler and oil pumps in stock as well. As soon as development is done we know the car can handle the power over a long period of time with testing on our own xB…so we are very close to releasing this kit!!! You can expect this as early as mid August maybe as late a 9-01.

Exhaust:
The kits down pipe will be a slip fit design to go over your existing system. We will include a high pressure clamp. We will need to know the size of your exhaust at time of ordering. It will work in conjunction with any cat back or axle back on the market.

ECU:
I have heard a lot of talk about an adaptive ecu etc.. This is correct to a point all Toyota ECU on the market today have long term and short term fuel maps. This is true with almost all modern cars. The car adapts to your driving habits to provide a smother car, especially holding true to autos. The emanage manipulates the signal prior to reaching the ECU. Thus the ECU is adapting to the signal in which we are providing, it is not the vehicle adapting around the emanage. It is always a good idea to reset the ECU prior to taking the car on the dyno or going to the track this has been a secret for years.

Track Times:
At our shootout there was a Blitz powered xA on juice running low 14’s. On the dyno this car made 50whp less than our xB so I would safely assume the xB should go 13’s on radials and low 14’s on street tires. Race gas and slicks you may see 12’s but no promises.

Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns we will be on here more and are on our forums and AIM everyday.

Thanks

-Kenny Strickler

 

 

Looks like were gonna have to make yet another person stick their foot in their mouth.

 

I was wondering if the turbo is on the XB yet?

 

Do to an unfortunate event, cz3ch (Jaems) had to drop out of the turbo program , so he will not be able to make an install video.

 

so i've been following allll ZPI's threads on their turbo'd xB. and to be honest im very very impressed. you guys are not afraid to answer any question someone throws at you. when someone calls BS, you come back with facts and knowelge to show them why and how you do what you do.

i have been tossing aroudn the idea of turboing my box for the past few months. though i've only had him for a little over a month. i knew i was getting one because i was getting bored of my tC very very quickly.

there is one kid aroundme who has a turbo'd xB wich ive seen in person. He has a greedy kit and it just looks...so so.

i am a man of looks, and performance, so if you guys can do both, you will be set. I hope when all is done and finished andyou have the turbo ready to hit the market, it does as well as you guys have done these past few months in the R & D of the turbo.

good luck to you all andim sure you'll be getting a phonecall fromme a few months down the road after the kit is out and going strong.

 

mind u he was only running a 17hp shot, and he had a comcon controller to advance the timing and whatnot, im not sure but i think he ended up dyno'ing at about 174whp, i think, but im probably wrong on that one

 

Once my refund processes and I'm up to date in rent and get another job.. i'll be saving some $ to purchase the kit outright again then will make the promised install DVD...

 

Lol no foot in mouth, I just don't see it at 8psi pulling off 12's. I didn't just buy an xb and decide to become a tuner.

1. Slicks don't do crap for a non LSD tranny= bad launch and 60 foots
2. The turbo is mounted remotely, gonna lose some exhaust pressure
3. stock cams and head flow
4. do I need to continue?

I like that they are making an attempt and showing support for the xb but making statements like 12's statement is rediculous. It's gonna take more than slapping a turbo on the xb to run 12's but then again a 12.9 is a 12

 

Doh a 17 hp shot? WTF is that? advance timing while spraying the dope = blown or sizzled motor. too funny......

 

First off the 8psi xA had a 35 shot... He runs 14 flat on radials and stock injectors. I did not promise 12's I said maybe...I can assure you that Slicks do make a difference on open diffs I.E. our tC's . I have included a video to help with the visual.

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/g...nvmaserati.wmv

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/g...ideos/ZPI2.wmv

I am more than confident that a xB with our kit on radials with a average to good driver can run 13's. I will say that I will take one to the 12's on stock block and head before the end of the season this year...

 

My statement is only about the slicks. Lol that 12.1 was made up on the big end, Those vids didn't show a 60ft time because somebody prolly edited it out, Neither car left very hard, with 1 WHEEL PEEL you won't get good 60 Ft's. anyways good luck

 

I agree with everything you said. Slicks wont do much in this situation. Youre just going to get more twisting. Really man, the info, etc is really for noobs who have no tuning experience or a heavy modifying past. I wish them luck though because it would be cool to see an XB run 12s. As for honeyobucket who had all his questions answered, maybe the wrong questions werent asked. I surely didnt get answers. 8psi to run 184whp is just info that only a noob can believe. Their supercharged xa had a 35shot and still made 50whp less than their xb? What were they running on the sc? 1psi of boost? Its gotta be atleast 6psi. When will we realize the bedtime stories are just that? I really hope and ask for honesty.

 

I hope to see this one..... Going to be very interesting if it can be pulled off...

 

does anyone actually have a completed vehicle they are driving?

 

No, apparently Proshop hasn't received his back yet, but it supposed to be running well.

 

Not to be rude or stir the coals so to speak but what was the original date the vehicle was supposed to be delivered?