Problem(wiring, Luminics) Updated with Pics
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Originally Posted by nfiniti9
looks like it was a loose connection that shorted slowly to death. or it could have gotten water inside the connection corroded and caused the short.
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Originally Posted by Piston
I have this same problem with my Xb fog light. it is a bad ground. The dealership says that can only order me a new harness. something over 2600 bucks installed. They told me this cause they dont like me at all.
I would test the bulb in question on the other side to make sure that it works, then take your car to the dealership to see what they will say. Take the bulbs with you and show them what you are using, just so they know what happened. Dont put the factory blub in and expect them to do anything seeing how the factory blub wont have the char mark on it.
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I would test the bulb in question on the other side to make sure that it works, then take your car to the dealership to see what they will say. Take the bulbs with you and show them what you are using, just so they know what happened. Dont put the factory blub in and expect them to do anything seeing how the factory blub wont have the char mark on it.
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"Clicking in place" and "loose connection" are NOT mutually exclusive.
Pushing hard and making sure the PLASTIC parts are well connected does not in any way assure that the metallic, current carrying parts are tightly mated.
There are three possibilities for a problem there (from what can be seen in those pics):
1) Low tension of the harness connector gripping the blade of the bulb.
2) Misalignment of the two parts (bulb blade and connector insert) so that the blade went beside the connector insert rather than into it.
3) Corrosion or other problem with either metal part causing a high resistance connection.
That looks like a burn from a poor connection. In other words there was arcing between the metal part of the bulb and the connector that caused the damage.
A less than tight metal to metal contact, and the normal vibration of a vehicle could easily cause this sort of damage.
Since the tension is solely the responsibility of the socket insert, not the bulb (assuming the blades on the bulb are properly sized and not corroded or in any other way less than a very goods conductor) I would suggest that the failure was in the connector (Scion) not the bulb (Luminics).
(And yes, I've been chasing electrical failures for over 40 years and have seen MANY of them.)
Please let us know what the dealer says caused the problem. They need, really, to do more than say "it wasn't our part" but to prove it was something else.
This should likely be warranty...
Good luck!
Pushing hard and making sure the PLASTIC parts are well connected does not in any way assure that the metallic, current carrying parts are tightly mated.
There are three possibilities for a problem there (from what can be seen in those pics):
1) Low tension of the harness connector gripping the blade of the bulb.
2) Misalignment of the two parts (bulb blade and connector insert) so that the blade went beside the connector insert rather than into it.
3) Corrosion or other problem with either metal part causing a high resistance connection.
That looks like a burn from a poor connection. In other words there was arcing between the metal part of the bulb and the connector that caused the damage.
A less than tight metal to metal contact, and the normal vibration of a vehicle could easily cause this sort of damage.
Since the tension is solely the responsibility of the socket insert, not the bulb (assuming the blades on the bulb are properly sized and not corroded or in any other way less than a very goods conductor) I would suggest that the failure was in the connector (Scion) not the bulb (Luminics).
(And yes, I've been chasing electrical failures for over 40 years and have seen MANY of them.)
Please let us know what the dealer says caused the problem. They need, really, to do more than say "it wasn't our part" but to prove it was something else.
This should likely be warranty...
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Tomas
"Clicking in place" and "loose connection" are NOT mutually exclusive.
Pushing hard and making sure the PLASTIC parts are well connected does not in any way assure that the metallic, current carrying parts are tightly mated.
There are three possibilities for a problem there (from what can be seen in those pics):
1) Low tension of the harness connector gripping the blade of the bulb.
2) Misalignment of the two parts (bulb blade and connector insert) so that the blade went beside the connector insert rather than into it.
3) Corrosion or other problem with either metal part causing a high resistance connection.
That looks like a burn from a poor connection. In other words there was arcing between the metal part of the bulb and the connector that caused the damage.
A less than tight metal to metal contact, and the normal vibration of a vehicle could easily cause this sort of damage.
Since the tension is solely the responsibility of the socket insert, not the bulb (assuming the blades on the bulb are properly sized and not corroded or in any other way less than a very goods conductor) I would suggest that the failure was in the connector (Scion) not the bulb (Luminics).
(And yes, I've been chasing electrical failures for over 40 years and have seen MANY of them.)
Please let us know what the dealer says caused the problem. They need, really, to do more than say "it wasn't our part" but to prove it was something else.
This should likely be warranty...
Good luck!
Pushing hard and making sure the PLASTIC parts are well connected does not in any way assure that the metallic, current carrying parts are tightly mated.
There are three possibilities for a problem there (from what can be seen in those pics):
1) Low tension of the harness connector gripping the blade of the bulb.
2) Misalignment of the two parts (bulb blade and connector insert) so that the blade went beside the connector insert rather than into it.
3) Corrosion or other problem with either metal part causing a high resistance connection.
That looks like a burn from a poor connection. In other words there was arcing between the metal part of the bulb and the connector that caused the damage.
A less than tight metal to metal contact, and the normal vibration of a vehicle could easily cause this sort of damage.
Since the tension is solely the responsibility of the socket insert, not the bulb (assuming the blades on the bulb are properly sized and not corroded or in any other way less than a very goods conductor) I would suggest that the failure was in the connector (Scion) not the bulb (Luminics).
(And yes, I've been chasing electrical failures for over 40 years and have seen MANY of them.)
Please let us know what the dealer says caused the problem. They need, really, to do more than say "it wasn't our part" but to prove it was something else.
This should likely be warranty...
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Tomas
"Clicking in place" and "loose connection" are NOT mutually exclusive.
Pushing hard and making sure the PLASTIC parts are well connected does not in any way assure that the metallic, current carrying parts are tightly mated.
There are three possibilities for a problem there (from what can be seen in those pics):
1) Low tension of the harness connector gripping the blade of the bulb.
2) Misalignment of the two parts (bulb blade and connector insert) so that the blade went beside the connector insert rather than into it.
3) Corrosion or other problem with either metal part causing a high resistance connection.
That looks like a burn from a poor connection. In other words there was arcing between the metal part of the bulb and the connector that caused the damage.
A less than tight metal to metal contact, and the normal vibration of a vehicle could easily cause this sort of damage.
Since the tension is solely the responsibility of the socket insert, not the bulb (assuming the blades on the bulb are properly sized and not corroded or in any other way less than a very goods conductor) I would suggest that the failure was in the connector (Scion) not the bulb (Luminics).
(And yes, I've been chasing electrical failures for over 40 years and have seen MANY of them.)
Please let us know what the dealer says caused the problem. They need, really, to do more than say "it wasn't our part" but to prove it was something else.
This should likely be warranty...
Good luck!
Pushing hard and making sure the PLASTIC parts are well connected does not in any way assure that the metallic, current carrying parts are tightly mated.
There are three possibilities for a problem there (from what can be seen in those pics):
1) Low tension of the harness connector gripping the blade of the bulb.
2) Misalignment of the two parts (bulb blade and connector insert) so that the blade went beside the connector insert rather than into it.
3) Corrosion or other problem with either metal part causing a high resistance connection.
That looks like a burn from a poor connection. In other words there was arcing between the metal part of the bulb and the connector that caused the damage.
A less than tight metal to metal contact, and the normal vibration of a vehicle could easily cause this sort of damage.
Since the tension is solely the responsibility of the socket insert, not the bulb (assuming the blades on the bulb are properly sized and not corroded or in any other way less than a very goods conductor) I would suggest that the failure was in the connector (Scion) not the bulb (Luminics).
(And yes, I've been chasing electrical failures for over 40 years and have seen MANY of them.)
Please let us know what the dealer says caused the problem. They need, really, to do more than say "it wasn't our part" but to prove it was something else.
This should likely be warranty...
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by FlintM05tc
I found this place and they have high heat resistant harness replacments, take a look.
http://www.sportcompactonly.com/prod...2227&c=134&l=2
http://www.sportcompactonly.com/prod...2227&c=134&l=2
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mine fried too....last night while driving, i get home and my girlfriend notices one of my lights is out...passenger side. I had in the luminics pure blue low beams. I make sure its in properly, and then i take it out and notice that ^^ . The bulb still looks and works perfect. No charring on the bulb attachment what-so-ever. I used to praise luminics, but now this is two people with the same problem... any ideas? bubblemyster - what did the dealership say?
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Originally Posted by scrap
Originally Posted by FlintM05tc
I found this place and they have high heat resistant harness replacments, take a look.
http://www.sportcompactonly.com/prod...2227&c=134&l=2
http://www.sportcompactonly.com/prod...2227&c=134&l=2
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i went and got a new low beam socket from Camelback Scion ((best dealership out there)) . It costs me $7 and i just popped the old one off and put the new one on. Everything works great now....thank god.
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Originally Posted by PRE5TON
i went and got a new low beam socket from Camelback Scion ((best dealership out there)) . It costs me $7 and i just popped the old one off and put the new one on. Everything works great now....thank god.
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Originally Posted by PRE5TON
i went and got a new low beam socket from Camelback Scion ((best dealership out there)) . It costs me $7 and i just popped the old one off and put the new one on. Everything works great now....thank god.
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Originally Posted by bB-aym-y0urs
Originally Posted by PRE5TON
i went and got a new low beam socket from Camelback Scion ((best dealership out there)) . It costs me $7 and i just popped the old one off and put the new one on. Everything works great now....thank god.
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Originally Posted by PRE5TON
mine fried too....last night while driving, i get home and my girlfriend notices one of my lights is out...passenger side. I had in the luminics pure blue low beams. I make sure its in properly, and then i take it out and notice that ^^ . The bulb still looks and works perfect. No charring on the bulb attachment what-so-ever. I used to praise luminics, but now this is two people with the same problem... any ideas? bubblemyster - what did the dealership say?