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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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Default Underseat sub box should it fire up or down? Opinions wanted

I thought I'd ask for opinions on which way the woofers should fire for sound quality. I was told to down fire them to load the woofer. But the seat bottom is metal not foam so it won't absorb the sound like a normal seat would. It made me curious because it's easier to build a box to fire the woofer up. Also wouldn't you feel it more if it was pointed up?
If you've got an under seat box up firing how much does it make your cheeks quiver? I was wondering if I'd get a better massage with it that way, or if on a long drive would it make you start to itch?
Is there anyone in the industry or someone with a good working knowledge from experience that can give an explanation as to their choice?
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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you would have better sq with it down, but you have less air space because you need to put it on some 1" legs
Old Nov 14, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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Mine fires up. I wanted to make it downfire but the loss of space was too great. I have yet to finish my amp rack so I cant tell you how it sounds yet... Its not any harder to make it a downfire enclosure...
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Mine fire up and they sound awesome!
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:15 AM
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depends if you like to shake ya ___. and watch yerself. but seriously
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by hotbox05
depends if you like to shake ya ___. and watch yerself. but seriously
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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My subs fire up.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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down will give you better sound, up will vibrate you and the seat
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BoomBox757
down will give you better sound, up will vibrate you and the seat
You'll get more women in your car that will want to hear reggae music
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my junk in the trunk is enough for that
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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I agree with brianxb- you're going to lose too much airspace if the sub fires down. It's tough to find subs(10") that will fit the shallow depth and lack of airspace as it is I think there are some that do pretty well in small spaces, just require a whole lot of power and can cost quite a bit.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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It definately is tough finding subs that work well in a small space. That's why I installed my amp underneath the seat... :-)
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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I've been trying and trying to figure out how to get enough space for my subs. I'm giving up and going to fire them up. I'm hoping the fact that the box'll be ported will help get the sound out? I've never built a proper ported box before, so I dunno.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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having it fire either way doesn't leave much space for the sound waves to form, if at all.

bass is non-directional, so it doesn't really matter where it's coming from or where the speaker is facing.

what matters is that the speaker has room to "breathe"

hope this helps

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I know in some cases, ported subs require more space than sealed. You may want to check the subs manufacturer's specs to see their reccomendations. It also depends on what you'll be listening to. Maybe check www.sounddomain.com to see what subs people use for small spaces. Worst case scenario= use an 8" under each seat. You'll probably have plenty of airspace to fire it down...
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Originally Posted by cad455
bass is non-directional, so it doesn't really matter where it's coming from or where the speaker is facing.
this is true in most scenerios like houses or testing environments... however in a vehicle it is a different case...

My personal preference would be to fire the sub downward, although like stated earlier you probably wouldn't have enough airspace
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you can fit some kickers in it facing down
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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designed to face down







and fits a kicker in it

PM Smartass (james) for more info, I think he makes them to sell, he works at a audio shop very skill, and is opening his own shop in NJ
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by superjeer
I've been trying and trying to figure out how to get enough space for my subs. I'm giving up and going to fire them up. I'm hoping the fact that the box'll be ported will help get the sound out? I've never built a proper ported box before, so I dunno.
Ported boxes are generally way larger in airspace size than a sealed. The reccomended sealed enclosure size for my sub was .5 cu ft. For a ported box using the SAME sub it was 1.25 cu ft. , almost three times the size. Most subs follow this trend.
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how right that is, noway a ported box would work
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