Already ran my tests in an xB. Results (or lack of) logged here on ScionLife.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...687043#1687043

Be interesting to see if your results match up with mine.

Tom

 

then how do you account for the drop in mpg that people report when they don't put it in the fuel?

as tomas said, some of us have already done our own testing , lets see what someone else come up with , verify what was found, one way or the other.

 

placebo effect

 

Has anyone published any sort of a-b-a test with acetone? You'd think it would be relatively simple...

In the meantime, I figure the fuel-efficiency geeks would be shouting it to the rooftops if they'd found it worked. They strike me as a rigorously empirical bunch.

 

read the links that have been posted so far, lots of info to answer your question on the a-b-a test.

he he placebo effect, like a claimed 125 hp ? fastest xb in CA ?

 

Followed a bunch of the links, didn't find anything that looked even vaguely rigorous. Found some really rippingly absurd claims - 50%?! 10mpg?! - that make me even more skeptical than I was before. Lots of stuff about the eeevil oil company conspiracy, yadda yadda yadda.

Look - some oil companies are evil (maybe all of them), but they're not magic. If the effect could be reliably demonstrated, someone would be all over it.

Here's an example of the kind of rigor I'm asking for: removing mirrors increases fuel efficiency. I love this guy.

 

http://ezinearticles.com/?Chemically...r-Car&id=93248

http://www.gowally.com/gas_mileage_tips.htm

http://www.mdwholesale.com/Improving_gas_mileage.html

http://www.mdwholesale.com/Improving_gas_mileage.html

http://rofish.net/gas/acetone.php

http://www.industrialnewsupdate.com/...ices/index.php

Here are a few more articles to read , lots of reading , lots of the same info , let the fun continue.

and yes, by decreasing the drag ( removing mirros , use of proper spoilers , ect...) looks like a good idea. now tailgating semis is a bit dangerous , but what ever floats your boat.

 

you have an awful mighty typing hand.

You should really just post about the topics on hand instead of trying to crack jokes that only you laugh about. On top of that you have no idea who I am , what I have or how I conduct myself, you take snipits of my posts that you don't believe and then make it seem as though I am a moronic liar.

 

Hey Heathen - Happy Birthday!

...but based on your initial posts on this thread, it looks like you've got waaayyyy too much time on your hands! Go out and enjoy your birthday, willya???

Just kidding - I'm actually looking forward to your findings. Keep us posted!

 

http://www.google.com/patents?id=5SQ...uel+efficiency
http://www.google.com/patents?id=8JQ...uel+efficiency

or better yet ( my eyes hurt from reading all that I found) google acetone fuel efficiency patents.

you will notice that in some way, they all seem to use acetone to some extent, or at least the few hours of patents I read did.

hotbox05 wrote "You should really just post about the topics on hand instead of trying to crack jokes that only you laugh about. On top of that you have no idea who I am , what I have or how I conduct myself, you take snipits of my posts that you don't believe and then make it seem as though I am a moronic liar."

was sticking to the thread , remember sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.

 

Maybe you should heed your own advice.

 

heres an article against it...

http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?se...ive&id=3951510

itd be nice to see the actual numbers they came up with at Kettering

 

bumping this so it doesn't get lost while waiting for the test results.

 

Abstract:
I have acquired a few gaskets that are in the xBs fuel system, along with some various other gaskets/materials (like the rubber hose used in fuel lines) that I am going to soak in straight acetone, and also in a acetone/fuel mixture (using around .78 cc per liter or one ounce per 10 gallons, or percentage-wise, 0.0003% by volume). My concern is with the effect acetone may have on various materials in the fuel system. I am considering using various metals as well.


FYI - I cut my materials into 1" x 1" squares(#1) (hose cut to 1" tube, #2).


Shell 87 octane (called A) (control)

.75 mls were added to .25 gallons of gas (B)
1.5 mls were added to .25 gallons of gas (c)

straight acetone (D)


all samples are in 5 oz glass screw cap bottles, labeled (#1A, #1B, etc.). All sample material is fully covered by fuel/fuel mixture. I have pics but have issues with my tower. But I do have them.

 

It was recommended I test different brands of gas, but I dont have that much desire to do that. Since Shell is the only brand that goes in my box, that is what I am testing.

 

How long are you going to soak the material?

 

I use acetone regularly in my tank with a variety of different fuel brands. It's fine so far and I can probably attribute a 8%10% increase in mpg to acetone. Make sure to use no more than 3oz per 10gallons. 2.5oz seems best. As far as fear of gaskets and internals, even if acetone had any detrimental effects at 100%, the amount of acetone is lest than .1% per 10 gals.

 

acetone is a strong chemical can wreak havoc on inferior and or older fuel systems .

 

Not in the amounts you would use in the tank. 1gl=128fl oz, so you would you 3fl oz at most for every 1,280fl oz. or 3 ounces per 10 gallons. thats les than .1%

 

at that amount it's not that bad but his tests might show some interesting results.