Removal of airbox snorkle-BIG MPG! UPDATE 4.0!
Originally Posted by bB2NER
Doing 70 plus drops my mileage down to 32mpgs. If I stay under 70 it goes up to about 37ish.
Originally Posted by Jan06xB
Just gassed up today 438 miles on 10.772 gallons first shutoff click was 10.1 gallons but I keep going slowly to get almost another gallon in. The low gas light came on at 10.0 gallons used according to he ScanGauge and at fillup it said I had used 10.7 gallons which pretty much matched what it too to fill it.
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Originally Posted by BoxOffice
Originally Posted by bB2NER
Doing 70 plus drops my mileage down to 32mpgs. If I stay under 70 it goes up to about 37ish.
Yes, there have even been a few folk who have had to replace the fuel evap system due to overfilling their Scions.
Keep in mind, too, that if you pump cold underground-stored gasoline into your vehicle, on a warm day the gas can easily expand enough to overflow into the evap cannister and ruin it, requiring replacement.
For some reason it seems a little bit easier for this to happen with the xA, but the xB can have a problem, too.
DON'T overfill the tank, especially in the morning with a warm day coming, unless you plan on burning off all the excess before your fuel system backs up like a flush toilet.
Tom
Keep in mind, too, that if you pump cold underground-stored gasoline into your vehicle, on a warm day the gas can easily expand enough to overflow into the evap cannister and ruin it, requiring replacement.
For some reason it seems a little bit easier for this to happen with the xA, but the xB can have a problem, too.
DON'T overfill the tank, especially in the morning with a warm day coming, unless you plan on burning off all the excess before your fuel system backs up like a flush toilet.
Tom
The intake for emissions is at the top of the filler hole - open the tail light door on the inside left of the hatch. I think it runs out the filler before it gets to that pipe. I also get my gas well away from where I end up (out of state) so I always drive 10-18 miles after filling up. It can take as much as a gallon after the first click because of the restrictions in the filler pipe just before the pipe enters the tank. It really needs a bigger tank.
Originally Posted by Tomas
Yes, there have even been a few folk who have had to replace the fuel evap system due to overfilling their Scions.
I'll be happy with getting to and from work monday thru friday, which is about 435 miles...I've gotten to 454 miles so I think 435 on a regular basis (without topping off) is a possibility...Im still tinkering with engine mods, tire inflation & acceleration, its really taking a long time to figure out what works best.
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Originally Posted by Jan06xB
It really needs a bigger tank.
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OOPs, I forgot to take into account the weight of the trailer and 50 gals of fuel. You should only get 35 mpg with the added weight so your range would still be 2,100 miles.
No the oil changes are already done for 150,000 miles with the synlube. The gas tank issue due to the trips I take sometimes requiring me to gas up a couple of times a day and if I didn't top off and run really low the usable capacity would be about 9 gallons. Scion wants you to get gas at 1/4 tank and not top it off so that reduces it to about 8 gallons. A second tank that can be filled when the gas price is low or you find that cheep gas station or filled for that long trip so stopping for fuel at some remote location is just a safety factor that I would like to have. A trailer carrying fuel is a fireball or theft ready to happen. A second 10 gallon tank could save $1-$2 bucks every time you find a cheep gas station and save your life if you got stuck in some remote location. A friend ran out of gas on a trip to Colorado and killed his van fuel or engine not sure which.
Originally Posted by Jan06xB
A friend ran out of gas on a trip to Colorado and killed his van fuel or engine not sure which.
Originally Posted by schwettynuts
Originally Posted by Jan06xB
A friend ran out of gas on a trip to Colorado and killed his van fuel or engine not sure which.
Back in the "Olden Days", when I'd drive back to Colorado to visit my family, I'd be sweating that stretch, since my '70 Challenger R/T got MAYBE 10-12 mpg on the highway.
Between worrying about gas AND breakdowns out there in the middle of No Man's Land - in a time LONG before cell phones - there was never a chance of me falling asleep at the wheel, anyway!
Originally Posted by BoxOffice
Originally Posted by schwettynuts
if you do a lot of highway (no traffic) and accelerate very slowly, I think 400 miles is easy. Especially if you keep it at lower rpm
Originally Posted by bB2NER
400 miles per tank would be easy if you could maintain 45 mph on level ground for 400 mile non stop. Where ya gonna find a road like that and have that much time to spend going 400 miles? LOL
I'm getting 400+ miles to a tank commuting to and from Los Angeles in rush hour traffic, both directions! That means intense traffic jams, sitting still for minutes at a time, constant stop-and-go, - the whole ball of gas-burning wax!
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Maybe the trailer idea was bad but you could engineer a way of mounting a plastic fuel cell that could hold up to 15-20 added gallons of fuel. Plus it wouldn't weight that much more when filled.
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However:
A. I'm presently driving 3,000-3,500 miles a month commuting, and every last cent I save (especially now at around $3.30/gal. for gas) getting better mileage is money in my pocket for more mods for one of the cars.
B. It was a blast just seeing what kind of mileage I could squeeze out of the ol' Box. There was nothing too serious about the whole exercise - I was having fun working at it!
so anyway... finally got my injen sri with aem dryflow installed. like i said, first thing i did when the airbox was out, ripped the snorkel off and punted that thing (dont worry i kept it). turns out you really have to twist it but i didnt quite have enough room to do it.
anyway, after the first tank with my intake, i got 35.5 mpg... that doesnt sound too impressive, but about 80% of those miles were hwy traffic or street driving. before the intake, the most i got was 36 (all hwy running speeds).
so... an intake would help too, as long as the sound doesnt prod you to floor it all the time. self-moderation is the key!
anyway, after the first tank with my intake, i got 35.5 mpg... that doesnt sound too impressive, but about 80% of those miles were hwy traffic or street driving. before the intake, the most i got was 36 (all hwy running speeds).
so... an intake would help too, as long as the sound doesnt prod you to floor it all the time. self-moderation is the key!
I need your opinion on something Box (and of course anyone else who wants to chime in)...we've seen that taking the snorkle off and/or adding an intake can improve MPG, wouldnt it also follow that adding the right header and exhaust could improve mileage even more? Thanks!




