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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SquallLHeart
toyota sales down.. ford sales are up.. gm sales are up..
hey.. it's the economy...

and also the collaborative effort of ignorance of the population.

Because of the recall yes but also 2 of the big 3 have really made a push in the past ten to years in increase the quality of their line.
Old Feb 5, 2010 | 04:37 AM
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kia forte looks nice.
Old Feb 5, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SquallLHeart
^^ that's what I was just thinking.. so.. VW made more cars... doesn't mean they sold them all..

(well perhaps eventually.. but still... yea.. not the same)
Actually people can't get TDI's who want them at least a 6 month wait in some cases
Old Feb 5, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Zsanz
Nope, and Toyota's approach to the problem is going to hurt them even more than the recall itself. They've known about the problem for a while, they CHOSE to ignore it and not issue a recall.

Going over the US sales, Toyota is TANKING. #3 in January, barely ahead of Honda and Nissan, and Toyota sales include Scion. Their sales went down 19%, where everyone else is improving. VW up 40%, Chevy up 36%, Ford up 25%, Hyundai up 24%. However, Toyota wasn't the only one with a massive loss in sales, Pontiac, Hummer, Saab, and Saturn saw negative spikes. See what I did there?

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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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LOL ^^^^^
btw I bought a VW in January over the Scion ..tough decision
Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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Sounds like an easy decision to me.
Old Feb 6, 2010 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Nope, and Toyota's approach to the problem is going to hurt them even more than the recall itself. They've known about the problem for a while, they CHOSE to ignore it and not issue a recall.

Going over the US sales, Toyota is TANKING. #3 in January, barely ahead of Honda and Nissan, and Toyota sales include Scion. Their sales went down 19%, where everyone else is improving. VW up 40%, Chevy up 36%, Ford up 25%, Hyundai up 24%. However, Toyota wasn't the only one with a massive loss in sales, Pontiac, Hummer, Saab, and Saturn saw negative spikes. See what I did there?
LMAO and Pontiac/Hummer/Saturn are discontinued brands.
Old Feb 6, 2010 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Sounds like an easy decision to me.
well yeah based on value performance it was a no brainer 22,XXX otd for a XB RS vs 26,XXX OTD for the Jetta TDI DSG inc 3 years maintenance and roadside asst......
I was disappointed at the difference in value
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