changing gear oil on 5spd question...
Ok but it's $20 and in 100,000 miles it is costing $100 plus getting rid of the used oil. Nice photos of the fill and drain plugs - needed to know that to add some slippery stuff to mine.
The scheduled service calls for MTF change at 30k I thought or maybe they check it. If you all are driving high speeds in hot weather then by all means change the oil - I have to deal with 25 and 35 mph limits for most of my driving so I seldom get the tranny very hot. The oil photo above looks pretty dark but regular 75-90 weight tranny oil is dark and pretty fishy smelling even when new. Synthetic is usually a lot clearer and no where as stinky.
Originally Posted by Tamago
i fill the transaxle by removing the "reverse sensor" on the top of the tranny.. then just cut the tip off your bottle of oil, put your finger over the hole, and lower it to the port where the reverse sensor comes out.. then move your finger... easy as pie (this is with the airbox off the car, if you're so inclined to have stock air intake..)
The reverse sensor would be the one with some wires on it - if disconnected the backup lights will not light up. Usually it leaves a good size hole in the top of the tranny to put oil into it - eliminates having it possibly leak by having it on top. Just don't go crazy and over fill the tranny with oil.
Well I got to house sit a friends house Friday night with a basement garage - heated and a clean floor. So I started at 11:15pm by finding the fill and drain plugs and realized right away that I could just about get my head under the front end. Interesting first time I saw the motor oil drain plug too! Big fan on the radiator - don't think that has turned on yet for me. I ended up jacking up the driver side with the car jack - nice having it under the driver seat - stays warm and clean there. I loosened the filler plug and inserted a 5/8" clear hose to suck some oil out and was pleased to see that it was not over filled. The oil IS a little dark and not very slippery by any means. I added some old (20 years) Slick50 Gear treatment 8 oz and pumped in the gear oil I had removed until it started coming out the filler plug - all but 4 oz went back in so a net gain of 4oz - book calls for 1.9 quarts in the 06xb tranny. Finished at 1:30am after cleaning up. Drove about 50 miles yesterday and ran my test loop today to check my mileage and looks like it has gone up already by about 4-5 mpg. Bringing it up to 49.3mpg during a 34.5 mile trip the first day out. I do a Ocean Drive run of 12 miles and usually get 42-43mpg today I got 47.8mpg then drove around while going a total of 20 miles and got 48.6mpg for the entire trip.
Originally Posted by Dr_Isotope
... Why shouldn't you put regular Mobil One in a transmission? Synthetic oils are too slick. Transmissions generally appreciate a fluid with a friction enhancer, seeing as how they rely on the meshing of gears to operate....
http://www.syntheticwarehouse.com/synthetic_gl4.htm
http://www.redlineoil.com/products_g...sp?subcatID=18
Originally Posted by chadfo
I just changed mine today at a little over 40K. The fluid was a lot darker than I expected and had a lot of gold metallic shimmer to it. I'm hoping that's normal wear...
Another choice for filling the transmission is the plastic pumps sold by boating stores for filling the lower units of outboard motors. These pumps screw into the top of the oil bottle and have a thin clear plastic hose that you insert into the filler hole.
Originally Posted by KenzokuXB
Vintage- My XB currently has 1500 miles on it. Would you recommend this get done right away? Or is it better to wait till @ least 10K??
Figure that by now any initial wearing in of gears, bearings and synchros has occured and is ready for draining. Manual transmissions do give off metallic sludge and whiskers in the normal course of operation (mostly collected on a drain plug magnet). Yet the factory puts the first change at 30K miles, so there is no harm in leaving the OEM oil in for that long.
But also figure that the sooner you change to the synthetic lube, the sooner you will feel the better shifting.
(I would have done it by now but I am waiting to find an oil pump I think I have. It has a hose and screws into the top of an oil bottle, for pumping outboard gear lube from the bottle up into the lower unit, and I think it's in a box behind our boat which I have not pulled out from the garage to set up for summer.)
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OK. . . so at first I tried Mobil Synthetic 75w-90 gear oil. . . and man, were you guys right.
Man tranny had never shifted worse. I had to COMPLETELY rev match 2nd gear, otherwise it would grind. Shifting at redline from 1st gear required almost a 2 second wait for the revs to drop. HORRIBLE. If you drive hard, have driven hard, or plan to drive hard, stay AWAY from the Mobil gear oils. The biggest waste of money ever, and the worst gear scratching/grinding I've ever encountered. Furthermore, the shfiter felt as smooth as breaking chicken bones at the joint. EW!!!!! The only reason I used Mobil, was because it was all that was available at the time.
Now that I moved to SoCal, we have Superautobacs. Hello Redline!!!!! After about a day to break in the new oil, my tranny is as good as new. I can rush my 1-2 shift without so much as a squeek out of the transmission (not that rushing the shift is a good thing). My point? The redline helps the synchros DO THEIR JOB. Even for people who don't abuse the transmission, the tranny/syncros seems to need to work MUCH less to match the revs. With the Redline MT90, it just feels sooooo buttery smooth.
Man tranny had never shifted worse. I had to COMPLETELY rev match 2nd gear, otherwise it would grind. Shifting at redline from 1st gear required almost a 2 second wait for the revs to drop. HORRIBLE. If you drive hard, have driven hard, or plan to drive hard, stay AWAY from the Mobil gear oils. The biggest waste of money ever, and the worst gear scratching/grinding I've ever encountered. Furthermore, the shfiter felt as smooth as breaking chicken bones at the joint. EW!!!!! The only reason I used Mobil, was because it was all that was available at the time.
Now that I moved to SoCal, we have Superautobacs. Hello Redline!!!!! After about a day to break in the new oil, my tranny is as good as new. I can rush my 1-2 shift without so much as a squeek out of the transmission (not that rushing the shift is a good thing). My point? The redline helps the synchros DO THEIR JOB. Even for people who don't abuse the transmission, the tranny/syncros seems to need to work MUCH less to match the revs. With the Redline MT90, it just feels sooooo buttery smooth.
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YYYYYYESSS!!!!!!!!
For an auto its ompletely different; different kind of FLUID, different location, different process. . . completely different!
With an auto, you need to do a drain, flush, and fill! It can be done DIY, but not recommended for a newbie. Ideally you drain, remove the pan, scrub it down, and refill.
For an auto its ompletely different; different kind of FLUID, different location, different process. . . completely different!
With an auto, you need to do a drain, flush, and fill! It can be done DIY, but not recommended for a newbie. Ideally you drain, remove the pan, scrub it down, and refill.


