-THE DON

 

i think that by rule of thumb if ur offended by something u shouldnt be insulting someone that would be offended by that comment u lameass.

 

Actually, I feel that if your statement was true, it would raise even more questions such as:


1) According to Chapter 5 of FEMA's Building Performance Study , firefighters were never in the building: "Preliminary indications were that, due to lack of water, no manual firefighting actions were taken by FDNY." Silverstein's statement implies a close temporal proximity between "that decision to pull" and "watch[ing] the building collapse," giving no time for the fires to become more severe and do what fires have never before done: cause the total collapse of a steel-frame high-rise.

2) Rigging a building with explosives takes weeks (minimum) to months to accomplish. That means the bulding would have been rigged in advance of an attack that no one knew was coming (hmmm.......)

3) The building had several areas of fire -- hardly conditions under which a demolitions team could be expected to lay high explosives.

However, if we imagine that the "decision to pull" had been made before 9/11/01, Silverstein's comment makes sense as an admission that there had been a deliberate decision to demolish the building.

 

The Search for Truth goes on....

The Karl Schwarz group has found that the US plans for what has come to be known as 9/11 because of its date and its aftermath of ongoing wars originated in the Clinton Administration. Gore, Kerry, Clintons, Kennedy, Liberman et al join with the NY Times to hide the 9/11 photos and analysis:

http://rense.com/general69/thethreereasons.htm

Not surprisingly the Pentagon Reconstruction was also started during that Administration (1997). A portion was specially reinforced to take a airliner hit and 'just happened' to have had few workers in that area on 9/11:

http://www.ftmeade.army.mil/SoundOFF/archives
/SO2002/May02/html/05-02News-pentagon.htm

On 9/10 curiously it was announced that $2.3 Trillion in Pentagon funds was MIA:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in325985.shtml
and http://www.rense.com/general69/depart.htm


Patriots Bronco Bingham and attorney Scott Hodes continue their battle with the FBI to pry loose the 85 videos from the security cameras galore in the Pentagon vicinity:

http://www.flight77.info/00new/85reply.jpg

Find the Appeal of the FBI Denial:

http://www.flight77.info/00new/appeal2.jpg
http://www.flight77.info/

Previously an engine was identified from debris in front of the Pentagon as a JT8D. This engine powered early versions of the Boeing 737-100 and 737-200 airliners and could have been installed on latter versions:








Read the RENSE article, Missing Pentagon Jet Engine Identified,

http://www.rense.com/general63/ident.htm

that compared the found engine with an Boeing 727 JT8D engine on display at the Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago.

As engine parts are made of heavy steel alloys several were found and identified at the Pentagon. This is a damaged fan hub assembly from a JT8D:





This cherry JT8D fan hub assembly is a dead ringer:






The heaviest body part found at the Pentagon was a half ton landing gear main support.





It also is a dead ringer for the main support of this Boeing 737 landing gear:





Former USMC aviator Terry Morin working as a contractor at the BMDO offices at the old Navy Annex identified the airliner as a Boeing 737:

"The plane had a silver body with red and blue stripes down the fuselage. I believed at the time that it belonged to American Airlines, but I couldn't be sure. It looked like a 737 and I so reported to authorities."

http://www.coping.org/911/survivor/pentagon.htm
This graphic discussing the large number of surplus Boeing 737's circa 9/11 suggests the weapons of choice on 9/11 probably were sold at bargain basement prices:





Sibel Edmonds, FBI whistleblower, discovered the can of worms that financed 9/11 but has been gagged by Bush who ordered 9/11 carried out by the CIA and the US Navy:

http://www.justacitizen.com/

Gary Potter reports on that can of worms in his article, Organized Crime, The CIA and the Savings and Loan Scandal:

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CI...andal_CIA.html

In 2000 the 2 biggest sources of opium were Burma and Afghanistan. However in 2000 the victorious Taliban decided to destroy the opium poppy crop (notwithstanding its considerable financial importance) and before the US invasion in 2001 it had been virtually all destroyed. However the US victory meant that by 2002 Afghanistan under US guns had regained its previous important position as a major World opium producer:

http://www.rense.com/general68/fab.htm

The FBI has a flock of 9/11 Boeing 737 engines stashed away in 'investigative files': Two from the Pentagon, one from the alleged Flight 93 crash, and this CFM56 engine identified on a NYC street after the South Tower crash:






The Power Hour radio show has confirmed our research that the NYC street engine from the South Tower crash was a CFM56 from a Boeing 737 and that Flight 175, a Boeing 767, did not hit the South Tower:
http://www.rense.com/general69/175.htm

In addition, the Power Hour has found that Pentagon 9/11 'witnesses' were given prepared written statements to say that a commercial airliner hit the Pentagon" when in fact they had no knowledge of the fact or knew it was false. They interviewed a former Pentagon insider working there on 9/11 who presented damaging evidence that the military brass lied about what type of aircraft actually struck the Pentagon. Reporter Greg Szymanski concluded that by following orders from the Pentagon brass, Pentagon worker Flowers provides even more evidence that the government was involved in causing 9/11 and the resulting deaths of more than 3,000 people.

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles...8131/39024.htm

The Power Hour has requested identification of the object hidden under a tarp, the start of the 'coverup' of 9/11 Pentagon activity, but light enough to be carried by Pentagon staff so clearly it wasn't a heavy Boeing 767 wing. Of course if it was there would be no need to cover it up just like the 85 Pentagon videos:





The Sugano Experiment showed what happens to the wings of an aluminum aircraft striking a masonry barrier similar to the Pentagon foot and a half thick masonry walls. Remember the Pentagon walls were specially reinforced in anticipation of 9/11. Finding the wings and engine in front of the Pentagon is proof positive that the aircraft hit the thick masonry wall and collapsed not entering the Pentagon. It carried explosive charges that blew it to bits shortly after impact. The bits rained down for blocks around. This is what the FBI knows the 85 videos will show along with the aircraft being a Boeing 737 and not a Boeing 757, the aircraft of alleged Flight 77. So where is Barbara Olson today?




FROM: http://www.sandia.gov/news-center/vi...ery/index.html

NO NEED to tell RENSE readers that the Pentagon staff is covering up a Boeing 737 wing.

Hat's off to premier 9/11 librarian and whistleblower Web Fairy's article, 150+ 9/11 Smoking Guns Found in the Mainstream Media:

http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html

Note the paucity of NYTimes links as they continue their coverup of the Federal Government mass murder of 3000 of their subscribers. Jessie of www.tvnewslies.com who carries the RENSE 9/11 articles has a response: Hey NY Times: Go to Hell You Criminal Bastards!:

http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=171

For different slants on the Pentagon 9/11 story:

1) http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...rand_jury.html
Top-notch reporter Chris Bollyn, Web Fairy, Sherman Skolnick, Greg Szymanski, Phil Jayhan, and myself all from Chicago. We model our work after Sherman Skolnick who still leads the way on 9/11.

2) http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html
Web Fairy said this site was promoting the photo of a piece of metal (see link) circa 9/11 to many Internet sites as the 'proof' that Flight 77 actually hit the Pentagon. It doesn't fit anywhere on a Boeing 757. Many analysts have tried. For homework, RENSE readers can try to fit it on a Boeing 737. However, American Airlines has NO Boeing 737 aircraft in their livery. Apparently the Boeing 737 that struck the Pentagon had a brand-new AA paintjob just for 9/11!

 

 

Some people don't mind eating whatever is put on their plate. I choose to go through the food line putting on my plate the foods that I want.

Enjoy yourself while sleeping through reality.

 

OK conspiracy boy.

What are you going to do about it anyway. Yes Bush is evil. Karl Rove is satan and Paul Wolfowitz is the anti-Christ. Oh well. The morons in this country already put these sacks of crap in office TWICE. There is not a damn thing you can do about the country being hijacked so what's the point in hyping up baseless conspiracy sites.

If you want to do something about it, kill some Republicans on their way to the polls next time around.

 

Conspiracy boy?!?!?? Im not the one who thinks some kids from the Mid-East took down the towers with airplanes. THAT is the true conspiracy.


Wrong. Be a good little sheep. Go back to sleep and never mind the words that may appear on the screen. Whatever you do, dont investigate things yourself. Simply trust and obey....you will be rewarded....

Your mentality (and hundreds of thousands of more Americans just like you) are the reason we are f**ked as a country.

Again, I URGE you, whatever you do, DONT INVESTIGATE THE CASE YOURSELF. Eat. Sleep. Obey. Never question, just consume.

Now, whats on tv?

 

heathen. you are truly nuts. go and join some anarchy now cult and make this country un- "f**ked".


allrighty. bye!

 

Well, if being "sane" means being a line-towing, unthinking dolt like yourself, than nuts I am.

I would LOVE to hear an attack on the theory I am presenting rather than grade-school name calling, but I suppose that would take an intelligent thought process on your part.



"Again, I URGE you, whatever you do, DONT INVESTIGATE THE CASE YOURSELF. Eat. Sleep. Obey. Never question, just consume.

Now, whats on tv? "

 

Not a conspiracy. An unfortunate event in our great nation's history. What's more unfortunate is the fact that
people have enough hate for one man (Bush) to make this ____ up. Modern technology makes it SO easy to manufacture "proof" to fit whatever ridiculous story these douchebags come up with.

What sucks is that there are so many sheep following them...48 so far on this site alone...you throw that word around, but you never think to apply it to yourselves. Sheep...yeah, sheep. Blind followers. Kick, holler, scream to question, but don't bother questioning both sides. Blindly follow people like Michael Moore, but don't bother to hear when every single one of his ridiculous "theories" are shot down by multiple sources. "He showed a quote on the screen, AND HE USED QUOTATION MARKS, SO IT MUST BE TRUE!!!!!"

You all need to step back & realize something, because your anti-Bush attitudes are going a bit too far:

George W. Bush doesn't have totalitarian control over this country...he's only the top man in a government made up of hundreds of men & women. Maybe if you put as much effort into understanding the U.S. government as you do bashing it, you'd already know this.

What does that mean? A lot, but for this argument, mainly this:

If John Kerry had been elected last year (I shudder at the thought), that would have been a handful of people changing...the rest of the government - the House reps, Senate reps & Congress, the vast majority of which voted FOR going to war, FOR the Patriot Act, FOR the NCLB Act - would all still be there. You DID know that the President can't just arbitrarily go to war, right? You DID know that every single one of the things the Left _____es about was voted on and PASSED by HUNDREDS of people on the hill, right?

I thought not. Try opening a book once in a while.

 

i call you nuts for being out of the fricken planet with your thinking and yet you call me "unthinking dolt"


whatever works for you mr anarchy!. have fun un f**king this country .

 

Heathnbrewing may be out of his mind, a consipracy addled nut, but think for yourself. Look at the facts. If you don't have the facts, research.

One thing worth applauding Heathen on is he has done research and made his own educated guess on the subject. No one else here has. Or, if they have, they haven't come forward.

Personally, I believe that there is more going on than what we're being told. That doesn't make me a sheep, it means I don't take things at face value.

Reading a lot of the crap in this thread makes me think that a lot of the respondees are those that xActly mentioned: the sheep.

Ask yourselves the important questions and make your own decisions, forget everything and everyone else and figure it out yourself.

Then again, if you don't have the time or don't particularly care, maybe you should keep your respective comments to yourself.

Enough with the mudslinging.

 

Conspiracy or not , you should be open minded enough to not call people voicing their opinions douchebags. Yes there is alot of anti-bush presence here but also supporters, because like everything else in the world. there are two sides of it.

If modern technology makes it so easy to manufacture "proof", why couldn't it be the other way around, such as the government & media fabricating what is true and what isn't. Don't call us sheeps because we hate bush and believe that this was a government involved event. Those "douchebags" are the ones that research for evidence to support their theories while you throw your personal opinion out to bash on these people.

If Bush doesn't have totalitarian control over our country, why is that as the years past, the US seems more of a totalitarian country. We don't have the privacy that we once had, all of our taxes are spent on the military ( just like a totalitarian country ). I don't know about you but i feel like the gov't is running our lives.

It's not hard to get hundreds of men and women to follow you, with the right amount of $ ( Bribes ) , favors.. they all can vote for Bush wanted.

If MTV can brainwash kids, what difference would it be with the power of media.

I for one was raged over the "terrorist" when 9-11 happened because like most of us, we were glued on the t.v. waiting for updates. I then heard the other side of it and reviewing everything , i believe that this whole event was government related.

 

you know.. until you all have the clearences to find out the truth you should all probably realize that you do not know it. I mean seriously, some people do know and wont talk about it.

You can keep thinking whatever you want, and your opinions are your own, but be careful about what you say.

9-11 was a trajedy and we need to remember all of those that have passed. We need to come together as a nation and help each other, not try and state that everything that happens in this world is a conspiracy. It happened, its over, now lets remember those passed and keep it from happening again.

 

OK you've investigated. Now, what are you going to DO about it?

That's great you have all this arcane "knowledge" now. What's it doing for you? Are you going to make even one damn iota of a difference about it?

BTW buying into every conspiracy theory that crosses your path makes you just as f-cking gullible and you seem to think everyone else is, genius.

Again, I ask. WHAT are you doing about all this miraculous information you've uncovered about the 9/11 plot? Are you really naive enough to think you are going to have any effect on the neo-conservative cabal that is running this country into the ground? Good luck with that, smart guy.

 

Please clarify for me which other conspiracy theories Hethenbrewing spoke of other than his theory of Sept 11th. I don't recall them.

 

This is not about a political party bias. This is about what really happened. I think those that died deserve the truth.

Polls show more than 60% of Americans think we are being lied to about 9/11. Seems like you and those who share your beliefs are in the minority.

Actually, I was one of those Americans glued to the tv thinking we should seek revenge as soon as possible. Then I put aside my emotions and took a look at the facts and events of 9/11. I hope you can do the same.

 

Alright, I'll rephrase. Buying into every 9/11 conspiracy that crosses your path makes him just as f_cking gullible as he seems to think everyone else is.

I love how people who find a handful of consipracy crap on the internet think they are brilliant free-thinking geniuses that see something the rest of the "sheep" don't.

You have to pick and choose what you gather from these things, just like you do from the mainstream media. Putting MORE confidence in conspiracy sites than regular media that actually has some standards and isn't run by crank-addicted nerds living in their mom's basements is the height of ignorance.

By all means, be objective and use multiple sources for your information about what is happening in the world, but I would say investigate reputable blogs and foreign media before you start trusting in conspiracy obsessed websites for your world view.

 

The same thing I have been doing for years....give viewings at coffee shops and colleges, continue doing my research, updating and creating informational DVD's (since the easiest way to reach the populace is through a medium they all know and love), sending said DVD's to open minded individuals, challenge J. Q. Six-pack when he speaks of "conspiracy" theories such as planes causing WTC 7 to collapse.....I could go on but I think you get the point.