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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
You still haven't answered my question. You keep changing the subject and you're trying to focus on all the circumstantial "evidence" that these videos show. I'm asking you to explain to me how it could be possible that our government did this. The bottom line is this: There are only two possible explanations for this to be a government conspiracy.

#1 The republicans did it. We all know about it, yet the democrats who would give their left ******** for this kind of information do not know about it.

#2 Both the democrats and the republicans know about it and have all agreed to cover it all up.

Which is it?
You just dont GET IT. What I am saying is what the gov't has said about the WTC 1,2 and 7 is impossible. THAT is my point.
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing
Originally Posted by matt_a
You still haven't answered my question. You keep changing the subject and you're trying to focus on all the circumstantial "evidence" that these videos show. I'm asking you to explain to me how it could be possible that our government did this. The bottom line is this: There are only two possible explanations for this to be a government conspiracy.

#1 The republicans did it. We all know about it, yet the democrats who would give their left ******** for this kind of information do not know about it.

#2 Both the democrats and the republicans know about it and have all agreed to cover it all up.

Which is it?
You just dont GET IT. What I am saying is what the gov't has said about the WTC 1,2 and 7 is impossible. THAT is my point.
*Sigh* Okay, let's try this a different way. Let's say you are 100% correct and it was all a government conspiracy. Let's say they did it. Now what? It brings us back to my two choices. Care to pick one?

#1 The republicans did it. We all know about it, yet the democrats who would give their left ******** for this kind of information do not know about it.

#2 Both the democrats and the republicans know about it and have all agreed to cover it all up.
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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If it was impossible, the dang buildings would still be standing!
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmanatee
OK, I hate myself already for coming back into this, but, for the love, WHEN did the government have time to rig the explosives?(1) Why would they do it?(2) Who did they get to do it?(3) There are reports of the city officials worrying that the towers MIGHT fall due to high winds from hurricaines.....I have not lived thru a hurricaine nor a jet crash, but I would imagine that the jet crash is a tad more violent.

PLEASE someone, explain just what on God's green earth the government had to gain from this. They have made no profit from war, they didn't need to go this extreme just to try to kill Sadam, if it was for oil, why are the OPEC nations still getting rich off of us?

Some of us that are more conservative has asked questions that don't get an answer, yet some of you that are more conspiracy minded get huffy if we don't answer your questions, and when we do, you just ask them over another way.
9 pages of this should have not only solved this, but, we should be well on the way to finding a cure for cancer.....
(1) Rigging a building for explosives would take weeks, if not months to accomplish. This would lead one to believe that there was foreknowledge of the plane attacks

(2)Ask Larry Silverstein:

"NEW YORK — A federal jury ruled Monday that the Sept. 11 attack on the World Trade Center was two occurrences for insurance purposes, meaning leaseholder Larry Silverstein stands to collect up to $2.2 billion from nine insurers."
-Wall Street Journal 6dec04

(3) I do not know. Ask Mr. Silverstein.

The way I see it, I have dropped down MANY points and NO ONE is questioning those....they just want to turn it into a political shell game.

Politics are a waste of time.
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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Oh, BTW, matt, if you move that 3rd helix of DNA to the left, you will cure diabetes... I found that at lunch.
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
Okay, let's try this a different way. Let's say you are 100% correct and it was all a government conspiracy. Let's say they did it. Now what? It brings us back to my two choices. Care to pick one?
Drop the politics.

Who cares of it was this side or the other when it has been proven (hypothetically by your post) that THE GOVERMENT LIED?? The entire goverment, news media, etc would ALL have to share the blame IMO.

You seem to be missing the bigger point on this one.

Care to explain how WTC 7 collapsed? I didnt think so.
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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I cant wait till the # of pages on this thread catch up to "Scions and Gays" thread.
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing
Originally Posted by matt_a
Okay, let's try this a different way. Let's say you are 100% correct and it was all a government conspiracy. Let's say they did it. Now what? It brings us back to my two choices. Care to pick one?
Drop the politics.

Who cares of it was this side or the other when it has been proven (hypothetically by your post) that THE GOVERMENT LIED?? The entire goverment, news media, etc would ALL have to share the blame IMO.

You seem to be missing the bigger point on this one.

Care to explain how WTC 7 collapsed? I didnt think so.
It is so painfully obvious now... Mr. Silverstein heard of the terrorist training to fly but not land planes and decided on a whim to rig his buildings to implode just in case... Where was he when the planes hit?
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing
Originally Posted by matt_a
Okay, let's try this a different way. Let's say you are 100% correct and it was all a government conspiracy. Let's say they did it. Now what? It brings us back to my two choices. Care to pick one?
Drop the politics.

Who cares of it was this side or the other when it has been proven (hypothetically by your post) that THE GOVERMENT LIED?? The entire goverment, news media, etc would ALL have to share the blame IMO.
Don't you see how silly your entire point seems? So now it's back to being BOTH political parties, plus the news media. I suppose all of the battles we see on TV eveyday between the democratic senators and the GOP are just staged to make it look good.
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmanatee
It is so painfully obvious now... Mr. Silverstein heard of the terrorist training to fly but not land planes and decided on a whim to rig his buildings to implode just in case... Where was he when the planes hit?
Where the relevance of that question? WHO CARES? Why is the govt stonewalling investigations of 9/11? That is the question you should be asking.

I am going to try to take this back on topic.

Care to explain how WTC 7 collapsed?

At least I can offer up a theory and present information documenting my side of the story of the events of 9/11. How about you? Have you ever even scratched the surface of the gov't version of events?
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
Don't you see how silly your entire point seems? So now it's back to being BOTH political parties, plus the news media. I suppose all of the battles we see on TV eveyday between the democratic senators and the GOP are just staged to make it look good.
That sounds good to me...that my theory is silly (can you smell what Im stepping in...thats sarcasm). But it is backed up with evidence.

Care to give me your take on WTC 1, 2 or 7?
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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I knew better.....Matt and scion dad, please come kick my butt..........
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanjuro
I cant wait till the # of pages on this thread catch up to "Scions and Gays" thread.
Im working on it...
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmanatee
I knew better.....Matt and scion dad, please come kick my butt..........
Still avoiding the tough questions, huh?
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Yes, I am... I was looking for the joke thread..
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but you are the one avoiding my question. I posed a simple question...not to you directly, but to anyone who cared to answer. You are the one who responded, but not with an answer. All you keep trying to do is turn it around to your own question. I even tried to give you the bennefit of the doubt. I suggested (for the sake of arguement) that you were 100% correct. Let's say I can't explain it. Let's say it WAS the government. Now answer my question.
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmanatee
Yes, I am... I was looking for the joke thread..
This is the joke thread

It was a joke thread as soon as they posted the link in the first post.

I my @zz off at anyone that beleives these hair brained theories.

By the way tower #7 was knocked down by Elvis in a UFO.

The true answer you don't want to beleive is that the other towers fell on it, despite what some people say.

I'm done for now.
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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I must of missed the towers falling on top of WTC 7 in the videos I watched. It looked to me like they fell in on themselves.

Even if they fell on top of it, wouldn't they have pushed it to one side or the other? I don't think that would explain how it fell in on itself.
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing
Originally Posted by oldmanatee
I knew better.....Matt and scion dad, please come kick my butt..........
Still avoiding the tough questions, huh?
No, I'm sure he's struggling with some of the same words of wisdom that I'm struggling with on here.

1) Escape quickly from the company of fools; they're a waste of your time, a waste of your words.

2) Don't bother talking sense to fools; they'll only poke fun at your words.

3) Carrying a log across your shoulders while you're hefting a boulder with your arms Is nothing compared to the burden of putting up with a fool.

4) The wise accumulate wisdom; fools get stupider by the day.

5) Wise conversation is way over the head of fools; in a serious discussion they haven't a clue.

6) Fools care nothing for thoughtful discourse; all they do is run off at the mouth.

7) Don't respond to the stupidity of a fool; you'll only look foolish yourself.

Proverbs - If you didn't know.
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
I hate to break it to you, but you are the one avoiding my question. I posed a simple question...not to you directly, but to anyone who cared to answer. You are the one who responded, but not with an answer. All you keep trying to do is turn it around to your own question. I even tried to give you the bennefit of the doubt. I suggested (for the sake of arguement) that you were 100% correct. Let's say I can't explain it. Let's say it WAS the government. Now answer my question.
And you are avoiding 30+ facts regarding the collapses. And you seem to be the kind of person to avoid 100 more facts to avoid leaving your "comfort zone".

To be honest I never tried to blame D or R as it is totally IRRELEVANT. Facts are facts and physics are physics Matt. My energy is focused on HOW and WHY those towers collapsed.



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