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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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i dont claim to be smart and if u knew me u would know that buy my points r

the music for the "documentary" is handleds by some ******** which automatically made me wonder everything
the edited footage sure looked alot like the actual footage
the building the said were still standing after long fires were not built like the wtc, since that was an innovation of engineering. the s tower fell first becasue the steel in the middle of the building not the outside like other buildings had more weight above it bending the steel. since its built from the inside thats y it fell like an implosion.
i think ive seen numerous documentarys on the discovery channel, history channel etc and gotten alot of different views, and this one keeps looking for excuses to get their point across.

id love to post what i really want to, but i would probably be banned from this site, so i will post w/ sarcasm

i hope everyone involved w/ this conspiracy theory lives long healthy lives and never get molested anally. i love u so much and hope u enjoy delicious meals that do not resemble feces.

ps i love ny
and any other city would still be figuring out what to do
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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oh yeah, i thought i was having breakfast w/ elvis today. that punk, double booked
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Is E still hangin' with Howard Hughes???
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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It's funny how a topic about the official story given for 9/11 and evidence brought up to raise questions about the official story has some people bashing Bush, some people defending him while bringing up the Clinton years (which has little or nothing to do with 9/11), and partisan bickering in general. 9/11 has nothing to do with political parties. The fact is the information is out there. The government lied about things such as not knowing that terrorists would use airliners as weapons. They lied about not shooting down the PA flight. 9/11 wasn't an intelligence failure much like the Iraq war wasn't waged because of bad intelligence.
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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finally finished watching this garbage. ill stick w/ my discovery channel and the word of mouth of my friends and family who live in ny, were downtown and had to walk across the bridge who saw what happend.
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pdrizzle
..... while bringing up the Clinton years (which has little or nothing to do with 9/11)
You've GOT to be kidding me!
Bush was in office for less than 8 months when 9/11 occured. I suppose those guys all got their financing, came over here, got appartments, planned the attacks, went to flight school, and carried out the plot all within in 8 months.
The fact is, Clinton had more to do with 9-11 happening than Bush.
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Crazy stuff...

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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
Originally Posted by pdrizzle
..... while bringing up the Clinton years (which has little or nothing to do with 9/11)
You've GOT to be kidding me!
Bush was in office for less than 8 months when 9/11 occured. I suppose those guys all got their financing, came over here, got appartments, planned the attacks, went to flight school, and carried out the plot all within in 8 months.
The fact is, Clinton had more to do with 9-11 happening than Bush.
The current administration was handed every bit of information that the Clinton administration had about terrorist activity at home and abroad (including information about Mohamed Atta). You can't criticize a former president for not doing enough if the current president had the same information and didn't stop 9/11. They share the same head of CIA! As far as I know, Clinton didn't have the power at the time to have the nation on high alert because of a serious terror threat during the month of September (which was the case). It's not against the law to accept money, come to the US, get an apartment, and go to flight school. I'm sure if either administration could have proven that they were planning an attack, they would have been questioned at least.
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by djct_watt
Originally Posted by djct_watt
Here's is the be all and end all rebuttal, you gullible gullible people. . .

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman...cle_1253.shtml
Anybody want to refute this? Or is modern day physics a government conspiracy too?
Gee, no takers. I wonder why not?
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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wow I just got done watching the first 2 minutes of this pile of crap. I like how the narrator can only back his statements up with blurry video and third-party quotes.

Can anyone tell me if he actually interviews anyone involved or does he just repeat video footage and narrates? (can't watch the full video now, at an airport).

And the side-by-side screens in the beginning of the movie of the airplanes could be anything. There is no proof that the 'grey' plane is the one that hit the WTC. Don't be taken in be this guy.

And finally for all you conspiracy theorists...if Bush is as evil as you say he is, and if he had the power to orchestrate the 9/11 attacks, don't you think he would have been smart enough to plant WMDs in Iraq?

Come on use your brains.
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OMAC
wow I just got done watching the first 2 minutes of this pile of crap. I like how the narrator can only back his statements up with blurry video and third-party quotes.

Can anyone tell me if he actually interviews anyone involved or does he just repeat video footage and narrates? (can't watch the full video now, at an airport).

And the side-by-side screens in the beginning of the movie of the airplanes could be anything. There is no proof that the 'grey' plane is the one that hit the WTC. Don't be taken in be this guy.

And finally for all you conspiracy theorists...if Bush is as evil as you say he is, and if he had the power to orchestrate the 9/11 attacks, don't you think he would have been smart enough to plant WMDs in Iraq? Come on use your brains.
I can hear the conversation in the Oval Office now....

"Crap!!! I knew better than to listen to yall about putting the planting of WMD's out for bids!!!! Haliburton has that 'No Bid' contract and would have already done it!!!!!! Screw it, who wants to go blow up some levees?"
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmanatee
"Crap!!! I knew better than to listen to yall about putting the planting of WMD's out for bids!!!! Haliburton has that 'No Bid' contract and would have already done it!!!!!! Screw it, who wants to go blow up some levees?"


Classic!
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I dont really think any President has anything to do with another persons actions towards or not towards the US. That person made their own decision, they are the ones who wanted to cause harm to whom ever.. unless the President has directly said "Hey you... you suck.. what you going do about it?".. then.. you cant blame the President.

You can however, blame the President and his staff for decisions after something like 9/11 has happend. His plan for freedom in the Middle East focuses so much on oil.. only because this nation was founded and established on it... its our way of living.. and that is why we do what we do...

I ate too much at my Christmas party... let me go drop some youngsters off at the big white pool..
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu_Gotti
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I dont really think any President has anything to do with another persons actions towards or not towards the US. That person made their own decision, they are the ones who wanted to cause harm to whom ever.. unless the President has directly said "Hey you... you suck.. what you going do about it?".. then.. you cant blame the President.

You can however, blame the President and his staff for decisions after something like 9/11 has happend. His plan for freedom in the Middle East focuses so much on oil.. only because this nation was founded and established on it... its our way of living.. and that is why we do what we do...

I ate too much at my Christmas party... let me go drop some youngsters off at the big white pool..
Good point stu.. the one about not being able to control what others do to us, not the one about the kids...

However, if W hadn't done anything about the oil, then everybody would be b*tching about the high price of gas....
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmanatee
Originally Posted by Stu_Gotti
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I dont really think any President has anything to do with another persons actions towards or not towards the US. That person made their own decision, they are the ones who wanted to cause harm to whom ever.. unless the President has directly said "Hey you... you suck.. what you going do about it?".. then.. you cant blame the President.

You can however, blame the President and his staff for decisions after something like 9/11 has happend. His plan for freedom in the Middle East focuses so much on oil.. only because this nation was founded and established on it... its our way of living.. and that is why we do what we do...

I ate too much at my Christmas party... let me go drop some youngsters off at the big white pool..
Good point stu.. the one about not being able to control what others do to us, not the one about the kids...

However, if W hadn't done anything about the oil, then everybody would be b*tching about the high price of gas....
W has got to stop eating a LuLu's
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Exactly.. bottom line.. although I do not like W, or his pre/post war actions, everyone has to understand..

The President has a very difficult job to perform. Politics control every single solitary aspect of his daily life.. basically from the time he swore in.. til the day he dies. Neither the President or yourself can control what others (terrorist/US citizens) do to each other. Bush is not the only one responsible for everything that has happend. There are people who are responsible for certain things. When those teams become complacent (like they did)... **** happens. Bottom line.. its been said and I'll reinerate it.. Since the Clinton era.. the US was in its "chill out" mode... no one EVER would have thought that something like that would happen.. that is why its still being talked about now.. When stuff happens close to home.. its a whole different ballgame. Things get looked at a whole lot different when Americans get hurt.. by other Americans or UN/NATO members. Terrorist could give two ***** about us.. they have no remorse for what they do or who they hurt. This whole arguement is based around politics.. everyone has their own views on things and they all think this or that should have happend.. guess what.. IT DOESN'T MATTER! W is in charge of it all.. and Congress. They do what they feel is right for the majority of the US people.. If you dont agree with what has happend.. or what could have happend... VOTE!

There is more than you and I can possibly imagine to this story.. Some things are not meant for regular everyday average Joe's and Jane's to know.. me being ex-military/veteran and having almost all of my family coming from some sort of government agency.. people like me can agree.. I probally know some things that you will never know.. and usually its for the average persons good.

America is the MOST diverse country in the world. Bottom line..

YOU MANAGE IT!

If anyone on these boards think they have what it takes.. go for it.. pitch your entire political agenda to us.. and everyone on here is going to flame you in one way or another.. its life. Whats good for the goose is not always good for the gander.. etc. etc. etc.

You cant make everyone happy.. you cant protect everyone.. life in America is a political survival of the fittest.

Gotti has spoken
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Originally Posted by Stu_Gotti
Exactly.. bottom line.. although I do not like W, or his pre/post war actions, everyone has to understand..

The President has a very difficult job to perform. Politics control every single solitary aspect of his daily life.. basically from the time he swore in.. til the day he dies. Neither the President or yourself can control what others (terrorist/US citizens) do to each other. Bush is not the only one responsible for everything that has happend. There are people who are responsible for certain things. When those teams become complacent (like they did)... **** happens. Bottom line.. its been said and I'll reinerate it.. Since the Clinton era.. the US was in its "chill out" mode... no one EVER would have thought that something like that would happen.. that is why its still being talked about now.. When stuff happens close to home.. its a whole different ballgame. Things get looked at a whole lot different when Americans get hurt.. by other Americans or UN/NATO members. Terrorist could give two ***** about us.. they have no remorse for what they do or who they hurt. This whole arguement is based around politics.. everyone has their own views on things and they all think this or that should have happend.. guess what.. IT DOESN'T MATTER! W is in charge of it all.. and Congress. They do what they feel is right for the majority of the US people.. If you dont agree with what has happend.. or what could have happend... VOTE!

There is more than you and I can possibly imagine to this story.. Some things are not meant for regular everyday average Joe's and Jane's to know.. me being ex-military/veteran and having almost all of my family coming from some sort of government agency.. people like me can agree.. I probally know some things that you will never know.. and usually its for the average persons good.

America is the MOST diverse country in the world. Bottom line..

YOU MANAGE IT!

If anyone on these boards think they have what it takes.. go for it.. pitch your entire political agenda to us.. and everyone on here is going to flame you in one way or another.. its life. Whats good for the goose is not always good for the gander.. etc. etc. etc.

You cant make everyone happy.. you cant protect everyone.. life in America is a political survival of the fittest.

Gotti has spoken


Gotti for Mod 06!
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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I can't vote for Gotti... he'd put an intake on this site and void all our warranties......
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu_Gotti

You can however, blame the President and his staff for decisions after something like 9/11 has happend. His plan for freedom in the Middle East focuses so much on oil.. only because this nation was founded and established on it... its our way of living.. and that is why we do what we do...
Agreed.

Honestly, I think the real conspiracy here is what happened in the aftermath of 9/11. There could be a smoking gun that comes out to disprove this, but I think that no matter what intelligence was passed to either prez, both did exactly what they could do given the political climates.

What I wonder about are all the other reports that pass over that desk daily. In other words, we know about these specific reports pre-9'11, but how do we know that even MORE horrific things didn't pass over the desk that WERE acted upon? Things like this we won't know for a long time. Does anyone have any idea how many times we came close to WW3 with the soviets? Heck, we fought a mini-war/skirmsh directly with them in the 80's!

However all that said, it doesn't change the fact that the current president has made a host of bad decisions, committed atrocious nepotism, has "verbal missteps"and alienated the USA over the last few years.
Even though I have big problems with what Clinton did with China, I really think that he would have handled post-9'11 matters much, much better. Certainly the Katrina aftermath.

Oh well, agree or disagree we all still like Scions
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Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Originally Posted by Stu_Gotti
Exactly.. bottom line.. although I do not like W, or his pre/post war actions, everyone has to understand..

The President has a very difficult job to perform. Politics control every single solitary aspect of his daily life.. basically from the time he swore in.. til the day he dies. Neither the President or yourself can control what others (terrorist/US citizens) do to each other. Bush is not the only one responsible for everything that has happend. There are people who are responsible for certain things. When those teams become complacent (like they did)... **** happens. Bottom line.. its been said and I'll reinerate it.. Since the Clinton era.. the US was in its "chill out" mode... no one EVER would have thought that something like that would happen.. that is why its still being talked about now.. When stuff happens close to home.. its a whole different ballgame. Things get looked at a whole lot different when Americans get hurt.. by other Americans or UN/NATO members. Terrorist could give two ***** about us.. they have no remorse for what they do or who they hurt. This whole arguement is based around politics.. everyone has their own views on things and they all think this or that should have happend.. guess what.. IT DOESN'T MATTER! W is in charge of it all.. and Congress. They do what they feel is right for the majority of the US people.. If you dont agree with what has happend.. or what could have happend... VOTE!

There is more than you and I can possibly imagine to this story.. Some things are not meant for regular everyday average Joe's and Jane's to know.. me being ex-military/veteran and having almost all of my family coming from some sort of government agency.. people like me can agree.. I probally know some things that you will never know.. and usually its for the average persons good.

America is the MOST diverse country in the world. Bottom line..

YOU MANAGE IT!

If anyone on these boards think they have what it takes.. go for it.. pitch your entire political agenda to us.. and everyone on here is going to flame you in one way or another.. its life. Whats good for the goose is not always good for the gander.. etc. etc. etc.

You cant make everyone happy.. you cant protect everyone.. life in America is a political survival of the fittest.

Gotti has spoken


Gotti for Mod 06!
***I AM NOT CALLING ANYONE ON HERE DIRECTLY IGNORANT***

But.. not any one person on here can honestly soak in every single aspect of what has happend to this country in the last 5 years.. PERIOD.

Politics are a very amazing and cruel thing that this country and others have developed as a more kosher way of basically controling people who have no say in everyday International affairs. I can go on for days ladies and gents..



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