I made a simple comparison. i'm not blowing it out of proportion or threadjacking.

how can wrong info not be bogus info.
informant: there are wmd's and/or they are making them in iraq.
If this statement is not true, isn't that mean it's bogus?
sorry if I used incorrect wording if it's not, but i believe it is.

and it's not liberal-leaning, to want truth, is it? If clinton had been president, came out and said "an informant told us iraq has wmd's", and later it was found to not be true, would republicans not say wtf? and call for his resignation?

 

no, it's killing.
Murder is something different.
Is killing enemy soldiers murder?
Is defending one's home with a gun from rapists murder?

 

Dave, you implied they lied, which is different.
How many Dem's voted for the war?
Why?
Because they saw the same intel as Bush, et.al.

The difference is that Clinton DID lie and was caught, Bush, to my knowledge, acted upon bad intel.

See the difference?
I want our troops home ASAP.
I don't believe Iraq is worth our kids dying for.

I believe we we ALL caught up in 9/11 grief and anger.

When it happens again - and it will - it will be much the same.

 

Bush acted off bad Intel with some greed mixed in -- my belief.

Being in the field that I'm in, the intel actually wasn't bad. But it didn't have the needed info. We went in too quickly, with little to go off of.

Back on topic though....

 

either he lied, or is really stupid. and all those senators and representatives(both rep. and dem) saw info from the white house.

ok, so bush or powell hears "there are wmd's in iraq"
Did they not ask "from who" and then go all the way to the source and find out how they know? No they didn't, because then if they did they would have irrifuetable proof they did.

we used to hear how there are 100's of claims of soon-to-be acts of terrorism every month and they only respond when they are credible. So they only act when there is proof. Where is/was that when it came to wmds in iraq?

Someone jumped the gun, or used the logic of "he tried to kill my dad" to justify it. Not proof.

 

This was on some WTF ish. Not every chic can be on the pill. Nor do you know when you'll be raped.

And rape happens when people are disoriented. Just because you get raped doesnot mean you are powerless. How do you classify everyone in favor of abortion into that xmas argument??

 

rape is illegal, but it still happens, all laws that are in place are broken everyday.

rape is a selfish violent horrible crime with a victim that will remember it for the rest of their life. an abortion is a medical evasive procedure that stops interrupts a natural process prematurely.

anyway, are you saying that if a woman is raped, it isn't enough that she had to go through such a horrible tramadic experience, but if a child was concieved, she now has to sacrifice the plans she had for the rest of her life to raise a child she never asked for?

there are lots of people who just aren't in the position to raise a child. and shouldn't. if there were no abortions, there would be way more families on welfare raising children in ghettos who would be degenerate gangbangers who would end up raping more women leading to more unplanned pregnancies.

how many times do you see stupid spoiled whiny brats with worthless parents that allow this kind of behavior to go on? and you think that those people shouldn't be allowed to breed. well, people who get abortions are smart because they acknowledge that they are not ready to raise a child, either finacially, or mentally.

 

w/e I'm not going to argue about the whole WMD deal. That's classified info. I'm not saying I know it all, but I definetly know more than the general public. Keep believeing that they don't have them or ever had them. Truthfully I don't think them having them gave us reason enoughto go in, but it was the way he used them. But like I said I'm done on this WMD subject.

 

Yeah, we played this one out.
I'm out and on to another thread - it IS fun to talk about something other than parts that Lex is going to put on her tC

Scott

 

I haven't even read the last couple pages...don't think I even want to but here's my opinion...

I believe it should be legal. If someone is uncapable of supporting that child or the father is not around or vice versa, that child usually has a hard time growing up. Most of the time if they can't care for the child, the child is then fostered or given up for adoption and I'm not saying it's bad but most of the time they don't turn out too well.

Correct me if my opinion is on the wrong end but I also think people need to take some kind of test to be allowed to have a baby.

 

Dang that's messed up. They'll make it on eventually. I don't mention them until they're asked about. But is cool, my ride is hawt -- on the way to being too hawt (w/o spending too much).

 

1) Damn you! You made me reply again!

2) That is what I've thought for years...the trouble is I see how stupid all the people with driver's licenses are, so it may not help

 

Ok...we aren't dogs...you can't breed people. I mean they did back before the civil war. They'd breed the biggest black man with the strongest black woman to try to get a stronger child...for slaves. [Yes, let's make more human drones.]<---that's sarcasm.

 

haha, you have a point...at least it would minimize the retards out there with babies. Some may even get their baby lisence revoked and their babies impounded! j/k.

 

how about this:

abortions for some, tiny american flags for others!

 

as a believer in natural selection, I say we should definitely be doing this.

I'd start with min. IQ of 120. no diabetics, no one with deficient thyroids. No one that "couldn't" live naturally to atleast 40 without constant medications.

then as time goes on, select more and more,

 

yeah, all i am saying is what about all the good ideas hitler had?

so we went from should people have the right to abortions to should be have the right to reproduce? nice job their ya facist.

 

Yavul, heir commandant!

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Dave - you're lucky those rules weren't in place 28 years ago...

 

Telling people if they are or are not allowed to have children: pre-abortion.

 

so can we agree that people that know they shouldn't breed have the choice of abortions?