I agree to a certain extent. If you did say want to know at which velocity a rocket ship would need to escape the Earth's gravity you would take into account what the excepted value of gravity is at the time. Its terribly easy to say that we don't take Gravity for granted, after all I could say the same thing about God.
BUT I don't see any of us using rope to tie ourselves to our bed at night in case someone proves that gravity is wrong.

I understand what you are saying here. I just have a question. How do you know anything at all if this is the case? If you were to follow your example for evolution, you would wake up every morning in fear that the suns isn't going to rise the next day. I think we both know you don't. Why because you have the same faith I do that it will rise and continue to do so for quite a bit longer.

 

But isn't that the Experience type of knowledge that atheists hate so much?

 

Wow I'm the overly critical one?
If you remember I started in this thread in a jovial manner. I even joked with you quite a bit.
However I don't see how someone can joke around when their character is more or less called into question... sorry man.

 

You didn't answer my question. Please read it again and answer it.
In regards to somebody killing themselves, I don't see what that has to do with anything but it would be their choice and god could deal with them in the afterlife accordingly.

 

Which question? I'm trying to carry on a convo here with 3 people so I'm sorry that I'm not catching all the posts to me.

 

ughh, not at all. Because I am an atheist, I want to experience near everything with my life that would make me the most "experienced human" i can be. I do have morals and ethics and don't want to fck up anyone else's good time, so i don't murder or rape anyone and i think getting poop on my dick is gross so i'm not gonna try out being ___.

But having a real experience is fine. Having a personal experience is fine. But all that crazy **** i think of when i got high on acid, isn't real and I don't profess it is.
Dreams kick ___. I practice lucid dreaming and dream like a ****.

My life doesn not get better than this after I die.

If you've played newer gta video games, it's like dying in the game with only 40% complete. I'm going for like 96%. playing music, making art, dancing, entertaining people, etc...

 

I can really respect that Dave....I dont agree with a lot of things you say and do...but that right there makes sense.

 

Very interesting outlook on life.

 

Kahuna, you've been PM'ED. Dun Dun Dun.

Hey guys the title of this threead isn't "Attack Dave for trying a substance you admittedly know nothing about" so let's stay on topic.

 

If you understand what I am saying then you understand that there is no evidence for god. There is ONLY belief. Belief that has time and time and time again been shown to be lies. Do you understand that?

I was simply using the sun as an example. I know what I know because of facts. Fossils are not theories. They are cold, hard facts.

How do you know? Because "god said". See the difference?



That is the biggest difference between you and I, I do not fear. I simply experience.

But for the sake af arguement, no, I do not have "faith" that the sun will rise every morning. I simply do not care. What if it doesnt rise? When can I do about that? Nothing. I do not waste my time over things I can do nothing about. If the sun didnt rise, I would experience the now.

 

Yes..The only thing I know about LSD is that I used to get it for $150.00 a sheet with a 100 hits and sell them to people like Dave for 5.00-7.00 a piece.... I wasnt attacking him for using it....I was merely point out what he said.."but i attribute most of it to lsd opening my mind though. " Thats Fine..you want to use drug to get the all out expierience in life..then go ahead...but dont make it seem like you are better than someone you dont even know beacuse they chose not have experienced with it....

 

"If the sun didn't rise, I would experience the now."
I like that. Might use it as a sig.

 

Touche my good man.

 

not better, and i never said i was.
i said am more experienced, and more open minded. i'll argue that if you want.

as a human we got 1 shot. i think you're a more complete person the more you experience. maybe i'm wrong. maybe it's better to be sheltered and wait for an afterlife to bring you to a better place.

 

It's an analogy...I don't think he's saying life is like a gta game....

It's more like a box of chocolates...

 

Kudos to seattledave...I think you have very great points and have held your ground very well.

Thumbs up.

 

Ok More experienced...thats fine...still you come off sometimes like you try to be with some of your comments sarcasm like.......
"sorry. i realise you guys grew up i a culture were "drugs are bad because our government thinks they should be illegal" and wouldn't dare try it."

when really, you have no Idea what type of culture I grew up in.....You just assume!

As for the "as a human we got 1 shot"...I agree with that! I dont feel its better to be sheltered and wait for the after life...I enjoy everyday as if it was my last....(well atleast I try to..sometimes things get in the way...but i dont see myself as another sheep...So yeah...I get out there and try new things, but I just wont resort to a substance to help

 

God dammit Tito...I thought you were gone

 

what are you talking about? I've posted on almost every page since I've been here. Other than that 5 page growth spurt that appeared overnight. I haven't had any replies to my input either. No wonder...

NO ONE HAS SEEN ME!

 

im never gonna try lsd. had a friend who died from it. He was apparently allergic to the fungus upon which the acid is extracted.

Not exactly a type of allergy people get tested for.