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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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if this offends you it's your own fault, i for one choose not to be offended, especially by this weak attempt at 'freedom of speach'. "It is better to stay silent and let people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" Abe
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by paul_mnly
It really ____es me off when imigrants and guachos do this bull$hit. I live in Southern Arizona and in the neighborhood i live in, I am a minority. On a daily basis I see Sonora (mexico) license plates as mush as I see Arizona Plates. Why dont the dumba$$es who think its so bad over here go back to their piece of $hit country instead of coming over here taking our jobs, money, women, identities, health care, and most importantly our respect.
Well, when the US welcomes them with open arms, why do you think they WOULDN’T come over? There seems to be a lot of blame put on the immigrants, and while they do share in the blame, they are merely secondary to the true problem….the many businesses that give them jobs.

Think of it this way….if you want to get rid of an ants nest, you kill the queen, not every individual worker ant. If you REALLY want to end illegal immigration, start with the companies that hire them. Vote with your dollars.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Well by you being tucked up in Kansas, you have no idea what its like to have to drive behind slow ___, inconsiderate imigrants, have them expect you to know spanish, and to have to worry about your ____ getting stollen because they dont want to get a decent job. Maybe you have stuff getting stollen in KS, but not nearly at the degree of the cities that are over populated with imigrants. So keep your opinion to yourself if you have never dealt with something 1st hand curtydc
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Great point heathen and I voted for it as well.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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For the record paul mnly, I support your right to an opinion, but I do NOT support the opinion you are putting out.

I live in San Diego, 20 minutes from the Mexico border, and I do not see the things you are talking about. Maybe you should take some of that rage you have and direct it towards the real problem.

Im not trying to attack you or give you a hard time, but like you, I am only stating my opinion.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by curtydc
"It is better to stay silent and let people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" Abe
Well when someone has a quote that has no relevancy to this situation except to start conflict, I have to voice my opinion more. I understand what youre saying heathen and I appreciate your honesty. And maybe youre right and I should direct my rage to make it pregressive, but I honestly do experiance these sort of incidents. For example, when youre driving down Rodeo Drive, how often will you see a famous person compared to everyday shoppers? You will maybe see one or two if youre lucky. This is the same thing in Southern Arizona. You occasionally see another caucasian. Im not a rasist or anything, (My girlfried is hispanic), but I dont appreciate the negativity brought from mexico by the carriers we know as immigrants
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Leavenworth is a part of the KC Metro paul_mnly, 27th largest in the US, we've got minoritys here, nothing like the west coast I'm sure. leavenworth is a prison town for crying out loud. in our city we've got four of the nations largest prisons in our city and multiple smaller prisons in and around the area, you can only imagine what kind of residents those bring in. not to say leavenworth is a dump, cuz it's not, we've also got fort leavenworth which is amazing, but we've got our share to deal with. maybe you miss understood my comment, i'm on your side man, i think it's lame that they flew the flag upside down, but i'm not going to let it bug me, what would that accomplish? the purpose of my post was to show that there 'freedom of speach' accomplished nothing, will flying the flag upside down do anything for them? not likely, our countries political officials will hear about stuff like this and say so what. if minorities want to be heard and taken seriously, they'll have to find more mature and educated ways to do it
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by curtydc
if this offends you it's your own fault, i for one choose not to be offended, especially by this weak attempt at 'freedom of speach'. "It is better to stay silent and let people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" Abe
its true what you say about Freedom of Speech. but then again if no one says anything about this topic, then it would be ok to disrespect your country. In my opinion people who stay silent about something like this doesnt care about what happens to their homeland.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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That quote was about the minorities actions, they opened there mouths, they flew the flag upside down, and let the whole world know they are idiots, because they can't think of a better way to express themselves.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Well for the record Curtydc, I understand that you are on our side bro, but the "quote" you entered was unnecessary. That's what sparked my annoyance. I wasn't trying to come off as an a$$hole or anything and I know they didnt accomplish anything with the incident, but I still feel as if it is getting old already and we need to crack down and only allow people accross legally
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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I feel like an idiot now. I thought the quote was towards me. Im sorry bro. Thats what I get for thinking. It just grinds my gears when people try to rep their country or anything, and dont know the history or anything about it.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOtC
THEY SHOULD BE KICKED OUT OF THE UNITED STATES. IF THERE COUNTRY IS SO GREAT THEN WHY THE F*** THEY HERE... GO HOME IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY WE DO THINGS HERE.
Originally Posted by konsumer
If you don't like it here, GET THE HECK OUT! Then you can see how much better it is here.
Both of those opinions are totally ethnocentric.

This country was founded on dissent. Dissent is what makes this country so great.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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oh i totally agree with you, i don't think anyone who can't even speak english fluently should be allowed to live on our soil, i'm against illegal imagrants all the way. what i am for is our country opening it's arms and helping those that need it. i do think we need to have stricter policies on who we allow in to stay. i still don't find the quot unnecessary, i think it's relevant to the topic, they are idiots for what they did.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Very true Heathen and I think that my coments were a little on the "enthocentric" side as well. Im just very annoyed by the fact that our businesses in the U.S. allow them to come work so that they can pay them dirt as opposed to paying diamonds. "Figure of speech" I know it is very hard to turn around and stop companies from hiring them, but I just wish people could come accross legally and than respect the fact that they are welcome. They just need to come legally
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Im moving to Nova Scotia now. Ill be the first Asian there. LOL. sorry just trying to break some tension.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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No tension. Just a misunderstanding
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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I just think it's funny how they bite the hand that feeds them.

You can't come here illegally and ask for the same rights that are entitled legal citizens. I do though respect those who come hear, keep their mouths shut, and make a living.

The real problem is the companies who hire them; they are just scam artists who think they can make a quick buck. I hope they get it in the end.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BigMURR
The real problem is the companies who hire them; they are just scam artists who think they can make a quick buck. I hope they get it in the end.
Very true, but it is at the very least partially the fault of the American people. It is us who demand such cheap, inexpensive goods.

And they will get it in the end.......if 'it' means $$$$$$$'s.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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hence Walmart.



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