Exactly.

Most people cannot see the harm in Walmart because of two basic characteristics of the Western way of life; they are a prideful arrogance and a devotion to selfish pleasure.

 

So support your local mom and pop businesses. They work hard for their buck.

 

AMEN!

 

Uhm yeah, whatever. It's not prideful arrogance that creates my need for groceries, or my baby's need for diapers. The same basket of goods that costs $100 at Wal-Mart costs $130 at Publix or I could spend $120 at Winn-Dixie but get inferior products and less choice. Neither Publix nor Winn-Dixie are what I'd consider "localy owned ma and pop stores," either.

And if I had my choice, I'd MUCH rather be shopping at HEB, but they don't have them here.

 

what the heck is a Publix and Winn-Dixie? Are those like Target and Wallyworld (walmart)

 

Grocery stores. Albertson's closed shop, but that's fine, it was a disgusting cess pool of a store.

Groceries are very high in PC, not as high as the left coast, but they are MUCH higher than Texas.

 

ahhh ok. thanks for giving me the heads up on that.

 

Ahhh…the joys of globalization.....

Low costs have their costs. It is the role of an ethical business to provide a wage so that its worker could afford to live and buy goods for their families. If you stop and think at what costs the low prices come you realize that Walmart is expensive.

 

You have the attitude that you and millions of other Americans share to thank for that.
Im not trying to attack you by any means, just trying to shed some light on how the business world operates.

 

I disagree. It is the responsibility of individuals to develop themselves such that they can command a wage that allows them to live and buy goods.


No, I have the inferior upper management of Albertson's that is unable to see the competative landscape well enough to compete with others to thank for that.

HEB in Texas beats Wal-Mart. They take them on directly and win by offering a unique blend of product and service at a competive price.

 

You may well be right in the case of Albertsons but in the past 15 years, 31 grocery chains have gone bankrupt, with 27 of them pointing to Wal-Mart as a cause. Most of these stores were the ones paying high ($20+/hr), livable wages to a percentage of the employees.

Besides Walmart paying there employees miserly wages, another tactic strong-arming U.S. suppliers to outsource their work to Third World sweatshops, perpetuating the cycle of immigration (both legal and illegal) ad nasuem.

 

[quote="scionofPCFL"]I disagree. It is the responsibility of individuals to develop themselves such that they can command a wage that allows them to live and buy goods.


How can an individual do that when Walmart continues to undermind employees? What is going to happen when the "Walmart way" becomes the American way?

Walmart lowers retail prices when it moves into new markets, and by doing so it kills jobs. What happens when Walmart insists that vendors or employees take another nickel cut, and they just cant? This drives the employees wages down and down.

 

There is no legality associated with the US Flag. There are guidelines for showing respect, but nothing is a crime over it. You can burn it, ____ on it, use it for toilet paper, whatever you desire and it's not a crime.

To show disrespect to it does ruffle our feathers. As a military man, it's a symbol of my country and I treat mine with respect. However, how far are you willing to take it? It is a symbol of the country, but it is only a symbol of cloth. Would you cause grievous harm to someone disrespecting the flag? Or let them go feeling they were an idiot?

 

Quite simple really. Stay in school, pay attention, learn, and by making the proper decisions to stay childless until they are more capable of supporting children...like, after college. If college is not in the cards, then learn a trade and/or skill. Not all jobs are dependent on Wal-Mart. And the more people that decide to take their lives into their own hands to prevent themselves from supporting their families on Wal-Mart wages, the lower down the chain they are going to have to hire. When it gets to the point that people can't wait in-line for 40 min behind two people while the "genius" behind the register trys in vain to find the "any" key, then at that point, people like myself will decide that the lower prices aren't worth the crowds and frustrations and go elsewhere. And there will always be an elsewhere.

The days of having a no skill job that pays $15+/hour are over. They've been over for quite some time now. People need to take responsibilities for their own lives and stop blaming the life that their poor decisions have brought them on others.


Oh, and just so we can say this thread hasn't been 100% hijacked, it's one thing to show pride in your culture (no problem), but it's quite another to disrespect another...especially if that other culture is the one you're trying to make a better life for yourself (problem).

 

Yeah, this did go a bit off course...

The individual plays a HUGE part in their prosperity, no doubt. I do not argue with that. But even if one makes himself into a larger sucess than what they were, with companies like Walmart, a lot of that hard work goes down the drain. When Walmart uses YOUR tax dollars to subsidize the health care it provides the employees, you dont have a say in that. They face the largest gender discrimination case in US history, involving almost 1.7 million women. Because they pay such crap wages, the employees unproportionally rely on government welfare programs.

All of this has an effect even if you have never stepped foot into a Walmart.

 

Whoever said vote with your money, i totally agree. First hand experience, if you agree with that statement, dont buy Ashley furniture. That company was a HUGE factor in the decline of our little town. It wasn't perfect to begin with thats for sure, but 10 years ago there weren't gangs, or filthy illegal bunkhouses up all over town. If they would just check employees, we might not have all those probs.

 

WOOOOPS...Just bought some yesterday!! Got a new living room set...REALLY CHEAP!
Had no Idea that a company that creates jobs also creates gang activity.

 

I'll give you 1 guess why it was so cheap..........lol.

 

now im not try to start anything, or add any heat to this thread.

might i suggest watching "a day without a Mexican". its a really interesting film about if all the Mexicans were to disappear; legal or not. it captures on how alot of the mainstream America relies on minorities to handle the jobs that many people wouldn't want to do. its a cool film that i thought some people might wanna check out, it brought up some good points.

as for the upside down flag thing, ok i get the freedom of speech, and the whole "distress" thing, but at least be respectful if they choose to disagree about something.

i am from east side san jose in california, where a great majority of the people here are Mexican, Filiipino and Vietnamese, so i can see where they are coming from (to a certain extent, and not to say i support the upside flag). as for myself i am Filipino and i know my heritage, and what we went through as people. esp all the veteranos not getting the propper rights that were "promised" to them; but never had they flew the flag upside down. and to be honest i just totally disagree with the flag upside down thing.

imo, i think that if they should fly any flags with eachother, it should be side by side, right side up. cause thats what America is all about, equality and a melting pot for all cultures. and i knew i felt warm when i saw this in city hall...

it was flew up in Oct. for national Filipino Heritage month. few up right next to the American flag, right side up as equals. if you're to represent your culture, represent it without disrespecting others.

 

Cause they hired Meskins to build it?
I bought it from a Meskin sales person to........What the hell.....
I needed to buy this furniture for my house that is being built right now by Meskins....The house was cheap too......
Gotta love my people!