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Sep 12, 2008 | 07:50 PM

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reminds me of the First Men In Black, at the end of the movie the camera backs up going to different galaxies and aliens playing marbles with our universe! LOL

Sep 12, 2008 | 09:22 PM

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this is how its gonnna go down..........

Yeah, ok, so we didnt create the big bang! But our assistant scientist Joe had gonorrhea, and it seems to have disapeared......... so yeah we have a cure for gonorrhea now!

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i think the biproducts that come from this experiment will benefit us greatly, even if the purpose isnt intended on doing so

Assuming the scientists can pull it off without miscalculating or getting overconfident and biting off more than they can chew, you are probably right. My biggest problem with scientists is that they don't really know when to say when. I can see them growing this black hole to a size they can't control.

You need to read more. They are not growing a black hole. The Microscopic black holes are a bi-product of the collision. They are not creating a small black hole and growing it.

Sep 12, 2008 | 09:27 PM

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Religion isn't based much on logical/rational reasoning because it deals simply with faith and beliefs.

Believing in the creation theory is no less logical than the Big Bang theory.

I used logical in a wierd way, possibly scientific would of fit a bit better. But I never compared the two theories together in the first place, age old argument that is a waste of time imho.

Yeah it's not scientific but personally, I've found my own evidence that leads me to believe in intelligent design.

- I believe in spirits and an afterlife. I know way too many people that have seen or heard ghosts. One girl showed me a crazy cell phone video that shows her chihuahua barking down the hallway. You can see a kinda purplish shape (which showed in the video but wasn't seen in person by the girl) moving really slowly towards the girl and the barking chihuahua. Then the shape gets right in front of the barking dog and the dog makes a "Yip" and leaps backwards. It's a trippy video. Then I have another female friend that has 'visions' of things (she was in a house and got an impression in her mind and accurately described how the house layout used to be) and has heard the ghost of her husbands uncle whispering in her ear (her husband heard that as well). I just have too many friends that have ghost stories of their own.

- Then there is quantum physics which shows that a photon can be in 2 places at one time and their theories that time travel is possible and that there are alternate dimensions.

- I believe that in the expanse that is the universe there has to be another place where life exists.

Due to those things I believe it's possible that an entity unseen by people can be everywhere at once and know all things.

Seeing ghosts and believing in an afterlife does not prove religion or god. They are totally separate things. Many cultures believe in an afterlife and spirits which would be labeled as spirituality, not religion and has nothing to do with god.

Sep 12, 2008 | 09:29 PM

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Religion isn't based much on logical/rational reasoning because it deals simply with faith and beliefs.

Believing in the creation theory is no less logical than the Big Bang theory. What's stupid is someone mocking me about how we couldn't have been created by a "magical man in the sky" while they believe that a magical cosmic explosion just happened for no reason from elements that came from nowhere then after our planet was formed we magically evolved from a primordial ooze and through millions of years of random genetic misfires we ended up being an extremely complicated creature that we still don't fully understand.

Actually, it is much less logical than the big bang theory and evolution. There is scientific fact to back up the theory of evolution, just not enough to confirm it as the definite. There is really no actual fact to prove creation, it is backed up by beliefs.

Sep 12, 2008 | 10:54 PM

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You need to read more. They are not growing a black hole. The Microscopic black holes are a bi-product of the collision. They are not creating a small black hole and growing it.

Actually, I read in a separate article a while ago at a different messageboard that they intended to try and make them larger. I can't find it anymore so I will just let that go.

Here's something interesting I did find in one of the articles though.

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According to a paper by the cosmologist Stephen Hawking in 1974, they would rapidly evaporate in a poof of radiation and elementary particles, and thus pose no threat. No one, though, has seen a black hole evaporate.

As a result, Mr. Wagner and Mr. Sancho contend in their complaint, black holes could really be stable, and a micro black hole created by the collider could grow, eventually swallowing the Earth.

That's my problem right there with science. They haven't seen a black hole ever evaporate. They just assume thats what will happen based on their calculations. Calculations can be wrong however. When man learned to harness fire, there were times where humans got burned. How badly might we be burned by playing with things as potentially destructive as a black hole?

Sep 12, 2008 | 11:39 PM

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Well, I have not read the whole article where you pulled that clip, and I could be wrong, but I think that Wagner and Sancho are playing with words there.

I believe there is a difference between a micro black hole and Microscopic black hole. A micro black hole would be a small black hole. Microscopic black holes would not even be able to be seen they are so small and would not pose a threat. I believe another article posted in this thread stated that the earth is always surrounded by microscopic black holes and they have never caused issues. Now if there was a micro black hole, that would definitely be a different story.