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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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.......there are known knowns. There are things we know we know.
We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some
things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones
we don't know we don't know."

- Donald Rumsfeld, Feb. 12, 2002,
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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hmm... i've known about this idea even before 2002....

i wonder where he got it from..... i know it's been around longer than that. i learned it back in 1997-98 from Landmark
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landmark_Education

careful though.. it's not for the weak minded.
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Quite frankly, in the intellegence world, that statement makes perfect sense. For instance:

Known known: I know that I am wearing a green shirt today

Known unknown: I know that I do not know what color shirt you have on today

Unknown Unknown: You may not even have on a shirt today.
Old Jun 20, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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you guys forgot about the unknown known, which is basically like your subconscious:

unknown known: (before realizing) oh yeah! i forgot i was wearing pink panties today..

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Known Known: The war aganist Iraq was based on lies
Old Jun 21, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing
Known Known: The war aganist Iraq was based on lies
Not exactly. It was based on a way to make a handfull of people a tanker load of crisp 100 dollar bills. It was pitched and sold to the populace and those just outside of the circle of trust with lies and half-truths.
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Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing
Known Known: The war aganist Iraq was based on lies
It was pitched and sold to the populace and those just outside of the circle of trust with lies and half-truths.
Um, OK.
Old Jun 21, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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For some reason "lie" doesn't seem to belong in the same sentence as "truth" or "trust".
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this is a weird topic

and that i know
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