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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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I have another question, so I thought Id ask here since there seems to be a lot of knowledgeable camera folk here,

it has to do with raw files
in regards to the canon custom function for NR, stock has the setting at standard mode which supposedly removes chrominance noise and a little luminance noise. For those that use canon and particularly the later models, what setting are you at.

I current have mine set with NR disabled compleetely and remove the noise via 3rd party software like adobe RAW,

So I find that the biggest drawback to high iso shooting in low light is the chrominance noise that becomes present, luminance noise I can deal with its not as distraction. However I often find myself shooting at 800 ISO tops, but Id like to kick it up to 1600 2000 iso if possible for the extra low light shooting.

So currently the way I remove chrominance noise is via 2nd layer - > color - > gaussian blur, filter - > noise - > noise reduction, or I surface blur in layers

I wonder if there is a better way that some of you may dind going about removing chrominance noise? Ive usually just try to avoid it by shooting below 640 ISO, however there are times that I want to kick it up.

I shot in 2000 ISO with fill flash in a low light out door environment and it introduced banding in the sky.. argh


Also one more thing, since I've disabled c.fnII NR function in the cameras custom settings, (I wanted the most texture detail possible) Ive been contemplating enabling it to cut down post time and use higher ISOs

However if anyone can answer this, is the cameras internal NR function recognizable by adobe raw?
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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also a question of chromatic aberration,

Ive been trained to remove chromatic aberration via layer masking and working in individual RGB layers

however this is time consuming, anyone here do it a different more effective way?

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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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better glass?
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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if you're shooting raw, it doesn't matter, because you're getting exactly what it sounds like..a RAW file.
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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I shoot in raw because I want to work with uncompressed images during post. otherwise Id just shoot in jpeg,

however regardless of glass quality and file type, high iso still introduces chromatic noise which has really nothing to do with raw and lens equipment. but more with the cameras sensor and firmware.

The thing is I dont want chromatic noise, just wondering if anyone else removed it differently, or was familiar with c.fn II functions and how it translate over to adobe raw.

Chromatic aberration is present even in the highest L lenses, in just an inherent issue with optical lenses in general.

I was just asking possibly start a helpful discussion for anyone reading this thread. I know how to remove them, I was just asking if anyone had their own way of doing it. Possibly provide insight for those wanting to learn how to post process.
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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those functions only apply to compressed images, IE jpg and tiff....

they do not apply to RAW images at all...
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DonNguyen
those functions only apply to compressed images, IE jpg and tiff....

they do not apply to RAW images at all...
actually they do.
canons software is compatible with raw NR from what Ive read

however not sure about PS since Ive disabled it on the camera. and Im not really interested in spending a day taking pictures and pixel peeping to find out the compatibilities.

if they are compatible that would be a big time saver hahaa
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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one more thing I think may be interesting, at least more so then tilt shift

anyone every take pictures using rear curtain sync and/or twirl

those are some neat effects Ive been seeing some of my friends do, anyone here use those?
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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if you're gonna use canon's software...cool...

but use ANY in camera effect, IE black and white, etc, it will do absolutely nothing...period...

if you're gonna ask, listen...not argue
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Post a pic you took that has "chromatic aberration". i wanna see this, i have never had a problem shooting high iso. use Noise Reduction
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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and as for noise...expose properly and the noise won't be as bad, but from what i remember, you're not exposing properly and are just trying to fix it after the fact.
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DonNguyen
if you're gonna use canon's software...cool...

but use ANY in camera effect, IE black and white, etc, it will do absolutely nothing...period...

if you're gonna ask, listen...not argue

bummer, so I guess i have to revert back to the old fashion way of 3rd party removal

ah well.
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MysTiKchRis
Post a pic you took that has "chromatic aberration". i wanna see this, i have never had a problem shooting high iso. use Noise Reduction
he's not exposing properly...thats the problem he's having...

he's shooting at whatever exposure he wants and is trying to fix it in Adobe Camera Raw after the fact...
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Originally Posted by MysTiKchRis
Post a pic you took that has "chromatic aberration". i wanna see this, i have never had a problem shooting high iso. use Noise Reduction
in regards to ISO what camera and iso are you using up to?

w/CA let me see if I can find one that I can post, but I dont see why it would be necessary? you've seen CA before correct?
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RnB180
Originally Posted by MysTiKchRis
Post a pic you took that has "chromatic aberration". i wanna see this, i have never had a problem shooting high iso. use Noise Reduction
in regards to ISO what camera and iso are you using up to?

w/CA let me see if I can find one that I can post, but I dont see why it would be necessary? you've seen CA before correct?
I shoot canon and i usually don't go past Iso 800. are you shooting auto mode? most of your pix look kinda funky but thats probably your style.
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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ISO 1600



ISO 3200

Old Apr 16, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Nice pic Don! in situation like that is when you need high iso. I wanna try shooting live events no flash.
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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concerts + flash = fail most of the time
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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DAMN that ish almost looks like FILM!!!!! LOVE IT.

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