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Old May 8, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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I'm trying to decide between the 17-55 and the 24-70... :\

17-55 is a very good lens its IMO better than the 16-35 L because the L doesnt have IS.

however 17-55 is efs, so it wont be useable if I get a full frame in the future.
Old May 8, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Thats a lot of $$$$ to spend on taking pix of stuff around the house. get the sigma 24-70 its liek 450 on ebay.
Old May 8, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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I was being sarcastic.

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Originally Posted by RnB180
Originally Posted by Ro_Ja
I'm trying to decide between the 17-55 and the 24-70... :\

17-55 is a very good lens its IMO better than the 16-35 L because the L doesnt have IS.

however 17-55 is efs, so it wont be useable if I get a full frame in the future.
I dont use IS most of the time. images arnt as sharp when its on. i can do with out an Is lens
Old May 8, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MysTiKchRis
Originally Posted by RnB180
Originally Posted by Ro_Ja
I'm trying to decide between the 17-55 and the 24-70... :\

17-55 is a very good lens its IMO better than the 16-35 L because the L doesnt have IS.

however 17-55 is efs, so it wont be useable if I get a full frame in the future.
I dont use IS most of the time. images arnt as sharp when its on. i can do with out an Is lens
I suppose IS is more useful with longer focal lengths, 17 mm is so wide I dont think IS is very necessary I suppose.
Old May 8, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MysTiKchRis
Originally Posted by RnB180
Originally Posted by Ro_Ja
I'm trying to decide between the 17-55 and the 24-70... :\

17-55 is a very good lens its IMO better than the 16-35 L because the L doesnt have IS.

however 17-55 is efs, so it wont be useable if I get a full frame in the future.
I dont use IS most of the time. images arnt as sharp when its on. i can do with out an Is lens
I keep IS off on my 24-105 cause of that same reason. I figure I can hand hold 24-105, especially on the full frame. Another reason I wasn't worried bout getting IS for the 70-200 L
Old May 8, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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i never use IS...EVER...

no sports shooters use IS
Old May 8, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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yeah to me it is just more money and more weight.

My 24-105mm f4 L IS USM is like twice as heavy as my 70-200mm f4 L USM. I was shocked and couldn't understand y till i remembered the 24-105 had IS.
Old May 8, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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wow IS makes your pics less sharp? i thought it was meant to make it sharper lolz.. guess ill turn it off...
Old May 8, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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in theory IS will make it less sharp "IF" you are shooting in sufficient light and high shutter speed like +800/1 sec(in this situation IS is a hindrance and serves no point), I have to use IS on longer focal lengths in low light or when I dont have my monopod.

you guys must have super steady hands.

300mm forget about hand holding without a monopod or IS. I have to use IS on longer focal ranges if my shutter speed is below 250. I did a test at 300mm with is on and off and photo was sharper with IS at lower shutter speeds.

however Id agree IS is useless during daylight, but in less then stellar light its gonna save your butt more than one occasion hahah
Old May 9, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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one more thing

don and elijah both use full frame cameras,

while most people here are using cropped sensors, 200mm might be hand holdable on a full frame however on a 1.6 crop 200mm is converted into 320mm

think binoculars.
Old May 9, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Elijahtc
yeah to me it is just more money and more weight.

My 24-105mm f4 L IS USM is like twice as heavy as my 70-200mm f4 L USM. I was shocked and couldn't understand y till i remembered the 24-105 had IS.
The none is version of the 70-200 is small an wimpy looking compared to the 2.8m version. More glass, bigger, heaver, more light better pix.
Old May 9, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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2.8 70-200mm FTW! if only there will be another stimulus this year, im gonna be able to get it
Old May 9, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RnB180
one more thing

don and elijah both use full frame cameras,

while most people here are using cropped sensors, 200mm might be hand holdable on a full frame however on a 1.6 crop 200mm is converted into 320mm

think binoculars.
Don is using a 1ds mkII so i think he is on a 1.3 crop sensor.


Chris, i know it is the wimpier version but it's good enough for me. This lens is my outdoor lens and I am already used to using a f4 all the time anyways. ha ha


Ace, I would LOVE for us to get another stimulus check so maybe I could pick up a 580ex II flash.
Old May 10, 2009 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Elijahtc
Ace, I would LOVE for us to get another stimulus check so maybe I could pick up a 580ex II flash.
didn't you just say you are about to file bankruptcy?? relax on the camera equipment man lol
Old May 10, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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Ha ha that's y I said wish. Ha ha
Old May 10, 2009 | 02:57 AM
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Just got back from FD. Pics soon.
Old May 10, 2009 | 03:37 AM
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Just one for now...



Don't bother whining about the watermark, won't do any good.
Old May 10, 2009 | 03:51 AM
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i wish i was a professional so i could have a watermark :-(
Old May 10, 2009 | 05:19 AM
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What's a good zoom lens to get for a Canon XSI? I currently have the 18 - 55 IS kit lens and would really want to zoom in for my pictures. In terms of prices, the lower the better but any suggestion around a low price range would work too! Thanks

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