California Vehicle Code a.k.a. "The Law"
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It also depends on your attitude with the officer... I have an xD and it has mods lowered, kitted, smoked lights and loud system and I recently got a speeding ticket on the 210 highway by CHP and he had no problem with anything but my speeding and even with that he wasn't a jerk, just giving a speeding ticket, but it all depends on your attitude with the officer and how the officers day is going! Just be curtious and polite and helpful of your info and you will be quickly on your way with a new bill in your glove box...lol....j/k
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so i just got a coupon from my online driving school and with it, new laws for 2008.
IMPORTANT NEW TRAFFIC LAWS FOR 2008...AND BEYOND!
PHREEWAY PHONING (California Vehicle Code Section 23123)
We know you love your mobile phone. You call your friends, family, and business associates from everywhere: at the store, at the beach, in the shower. Okay...maybe not the shower? Well, starting on July 1, 2008, if you talk on your phone while you're driving, you'll need to use a hands-free listening and speaking system. Drivers cited will be subject to a fine of $20 (at least $70 with fees and penalties) for a first offense and $50 (at least $175 with fees and penalties) for subsequent offenses. Push to talk (PTT) systems, such as those from Nextel, will be exempt from the hands-free edict until July 1, 2011.
TEEN MOBILE PHONE USE (California Vehicle Code Section 23124)
Who loves their mobile phones even more than adults? Teens!!! Yet, teen drivers are faced with an even more restrictive mobile phone law. Effective July 1, 2008, drivers under the age of 18 are prohibited from using any mobile messaging device (including wireless phones, pagers, texting devices, laptops, etc.) — even if it is equipped with a hands-free device. Drivers cited will be subject to a fine of $20 (at least $70 with fees and penalties) for a first offense and $50 (at least $175 with fees and penalties) for subsequent offenses.
For a video clip from CNN on dangerous driving behaviors, click here.
WHAT A DRAG! (California Vehicle Code Section 23109.2)
Street racing can be a gas, but injuring or killing someone during the course of a race is a real drag. Effective January 1, 2008, this statute allows law enforcement officers to impound a vehicle for 30 days when a person is arrested for street racing, exhibition of speed, or reckless driving. Vehicles impounded under this law can be claimed by their registered owners if the owner was neither the driver nor a passenger and was unaware that the vehicle was being used in a forbidden manner.
Having your car impounded could be the least of its worries if you engage in a speed contest. To read a news article about street racers being crushed by law enforcement, click here.
NO SMOKING! (California Vehicle Code Section 12814.6)
As an adult, you can choose to suck on that stinky, smelly, choking tar stick. Your underage passengers, however, don't have the luxury of choice. This statute is intended to protect children riding in vehicles from the dangers second-hand smoke. Effective January 1, 2008, the law makes it an infraction — punishable by a fine of up to $100 — to smoke a cigar, cigarette, or pipe in a vehicle containing a minor, whether the vehicle is in motion or not.
DON'T HAZE ME, BRO! (California Vehicle Code Section 5201, 5201.1)
This law makes it illegal to sell or use a product that obscures or impairs the reading or recognition of a vehicle license plate by an electronic device employed by law enforcement or toll authorities. The fine for using a product to obscure a vehicle license plate is approximately $146; the fine for selling such a product is $250 (approximately $900 with fees and penalties) per item sold.
SLOW FOR SCHOOLS! (California Vehicle Code Section 22358.4)
Release your driving aggression with Grand Theft Auto. When it comes to school zones...SLOW DOWN! This amendment to the vehicle code allows local jurisdictions to establish a speed zone of 15 mph up to 500 feet around schools, if a local ordinance is adopted to authorize it. (This is a decrease from the prima facie speed limit of 25 mph in school zones.)
TRAFFIC SCHOOL LIMITATIONS (Penal Code Section 1203.4; California Vehicle Code Sections 40501, 41501, and 42005)
This statute prohibits the courts from dismissing two-point violations through the completion of a traffic violator school or safe driving program. Two-point violations include drunk driving, hit-and-run collisions, speed contests, evading a law enforcement officer, and vehicular manslaughter. While we think drivers who commit a two-point violation could benefit from one of our traffic safety courses, we do agree that those drivers' records should reflect their extreme driving habits.
I believe these the important ones they want me to see and i wanted to share. Here some others from the DMV website. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/about/leg/leginfo.htm
IMPORTANT NEW TRAFFIC LAWS FOR 2008...AND BEYOND!
PHREEWAY PHONING (California Vehicle Code Section 23123)
We know you love your mobile phone. You call your friends, family, and business associates from everywhere: at the store, at the beach, in the shower. Okay...maybe not the shower? Well, starting on July 1, 2008, if you talk on your phone while you're driving, you'll need to use a hands-free listening and speaking system. Drivers cited will be subject to a fine of $20 (at least $70 with fees and penalties) for a first offense and $50 (at least $175 with fees and penalties) for subsequent offenses. Push to talk (PTT) systems, such as those from Nextel, will be exempt from the hands-free edict until July 1, 2011.
TEEN MOBILE PHONE USE (California Vehicle Code Section 23124)
Who loves their mobile phones even more than adults? Teens!!! Yet, teen drivers are faced with an even more restrictive mobile phone law. Effective July 1, 2008, drivers under the age of 18 are prohibited from using any mobile messaging device (including wireless phones, pagers, texting devices, laptops, etc.) — even if it is equipped with a hands-free device. Drivers cited will be subject to a fine of $20 (at least $70 with fees and penalties) for a first offense and $50 (at least $175 with fees and penalties) for subsequent offenses.
For a video clip from CNN on dangerous driving behaviors, click here.
WHAT A DRAG! (California Vehicle Code Section 23109.2)
Street racing can be a gas, but injuring or killing someone during the course of a race is a real drag. Effective January 1, 2008, this statute allows law enforcement officers to impound a vehicle for 30 days when a person is arrested for street racing, exhibition of speed, or reckless driving. Vehicles impounded under this law can be claimed by their registered owners if the owner was neither the driver nor a passenger and was unaware that the vehicle was being used in a forbidden manner.
Having your car impounded could be the least of its worries if you engage in a speed contest. To read a news article about street racers being crushed by law enforcement, click here.
NO SMOKING! (California Vehicle Code Section 12814.6)
As an adult, you can choose to suck on that stinky, smelly, choking tar stick. Your underage passengers, however, don't have the luxury of choice. This statute is intended to protect children riding in vehicles from the dangers second-hand smoke. Effective January 1, 2008, the law makes it an infraction — punishable by a fine of up to $100 — to smoke a cigar, cigarette, or pipe in a vehicle containing a minor, whether the vehicle is in motion or not.
DON'T HAZE ME, BRO! (California Vehicle Code Section 5201, 5201.1)
This law makes it illegal to sell or use a product that obscures or impairs the reading or recognition of a vehicle license plate by an electronic device employed by law enforcement or toll authorities. The fine for using a product to obscure a vehicle license plate is approximately $146; the fine for selling such a product is $250 (approximately $900 with fees and penalties) per item sold.
SLOW FOR SCHOOLS! (California Vehicle Code Section 22358.4)
Release your driving aggression with Grand Theft Auto. When it comes to school zones...SLOW DOWN! This amendment to the vehicle code allows local jurisdictions to establish a speed zone of 15 mph up to 500 feet around schools, if a local ordinance is adopted to authorize it. (This is a decrease from the prima facie speed limit of 25 mph in school zones.)
TRAFFIC SCHOOL LIMITATIONS (Penal Code Section 1203.4; California Vehicle Code Sections 40501, 41501, and 42005)
This statute prohibits the courts from dismissing two-point violations through the completion of a traffic violator school or safe driving program. Two-point violations include drunk driving, hit-and-run collisions, speed contests, evading a law enforcement officer, and vehicular manslaughter. While we think drivers who commit a two-point violation could benefit from one of our traffic safety courses, we do agree that those drivers' records should reflect their extreme driving habits.
I believe these the important ones they want me to see and i wanted to share. Here some others from the DMV website. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/about/leg/leginfo.htm
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I would like to give credit to the online traffic school www.simplefastfun.com for the new 2008 laws update.
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IMPORTANT NEW TRAFFIC LAWS FOR 2008...AND BEYOND![/b]
PHREEWAY PHONING (California Vehicle Code Section 23123)
We know you love your mobile phone. You call your friends, family, and business associates from everywhere: at the store, at the beach, in the shower. Okay...maybe not the shower? Well, starting on July 1, 2008, if you talk on your phone while you're driving, you'll need to use a hands-free listening and speaking system. Drivers cited will be subject to a fine of $20 (at least $70 with fees and penalties) for a first offense and $50 (at least $175 with fees and penalties) for subsequent offenses.
Ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse!
PHREEWAY PHONING (California Vehicle Code Section 23123)
We know you love your mobile phone. You call your friends, family, and business associates from everywhere: at the store, at the beach, in the shower. Okay...maybe not the shower? Well, starting on July 1, 2008, if you talk on your phone while you're driving, you'll need to use a hands-free listening and speaking system. Drivers cited will be subject to a fine of $20 (at least $70 with fees and penalties) for a first offense and $50 (at least $175 with fees and penalties) for subsequent offenses.
Ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse!
TOO MANY fricken IDIOTS talkin on the phone while driving. I think the fine ought to be higher though. And I generally DESPISE new traffic laws.
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Yup! :D
In Washington State, since July 1, 2008, the fine for using a cell phone while driving without a “hands free” device starts at $124.00. (Traffic fines can be higher if the violation occurs in a construction zone.)
Details here: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.667
In Washington State, since July 1, 2008, the fine for using a cell phone while driving without a “hands free” device starts at $124.00. (Traffic fines can be higher if the violation occurs in a construction zone.)
Details here: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.667
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Originally Posted by drjohnson36
You know it's kinda funny... ever since the new phone law came in, I've seen MORE people pulled over on the side of the road with fender benders...
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California May Allow Windshield Mounts for Nav Systems
Posted: May. 23, 2008 02:05 p.m.
Renegades driving around the Golden State with a windshield-mounted GPS system could get a reprieve -- The California Senate recently voted 38 to 1 to change the windshield obstruction law as it affects portable navigation devices.
NextGen Technology Blog explains that current California law makes it "illegal to have navigators stuck to one's front window, and police have been handing out 'obstructed view' citations for those who disregard the law."
The new bill will allow mounting to the windshield within a seven-inch square on the passenger side, or in a five-inch square in the lower corner of the driver's left-hand side. In addition, "the device may be installed, 'if the system is used only for door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated and outside of an airbag deployment zone,'" theNewspaper.com states.
But many industry insiders say the law isn't wholly convenient. Jalopnik writes, "For aesthetic purposes, those two areas are best suited for GPS navigation units, but for practicality, not so much." GPSTracklog.com notes, "Your choice, as a driver with a left-mounted GPS, is to use your left hand or reach across the steering wheel with your right hand."
Having passed the Senate, theNewspaper.com reports the bill now heads to the state assembly.
Several states have legal restrictions on windshield obstructions that affect mounting GPS systems. Check here for a complete list.
Posted: May. 23, 2008 02:05 p.m.
Renegades driving around the Golden State with a windshield-mounted GPS system could get a reprieve -- The California Senate recently voted 38 to 1 to change the windshield obstruction law as it affects portable navigation devices.
NextGen Technology Blog explains that current California law makes it "illegal to have navigators stuck to one's front window, and police have been handing out 'obstructed view' citations for those who disregard the law."
The new bill will allow mounting to the windshield within a seven-inch square on the passenger side, or in a five-inch square in the lower corner of the driver's left-hand side. In addition, "the device may be installed, 'if the system is used only for door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated and outside of an airbag deployment zone,'" theNewspaper.com states.
But many industry insiders say the law isn't wholly convenient. Jalopnik writes, "For aesthetic purposes, those two areas are best suited for GPS navigation units, but for practicality, not so much." GPSTracklog.com notes, "Your choice, as a driver with a left-mounted GPS, is to use your left hand or reach across the steering wheel with your right hand."
Having passed the Senate, theNewspaper.com reports the bill now heads to the state assembly.
Several states have legal restrictions on windshield obstructions that affect mounting GPS systems. Check here for a complete list.
Actually, if I were to follow the prescription in that bill, I would have to actually BLOCK a portion of my view outside the vehicle, which I do NOT do now...
California politicians...
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They want you to mount it on the left corner of your windshield? It's bs since the wire goes across your car and it also block a small your view.
I've mount mine in the lower center of my windshield inbetween the passenger and driver side with the GSP pointing in my direction. I believe this is the most common setup that I've seen. It's safer than driving it on my lap.
One thing I don't get it is if I mount it to my dash, it would be in the same position as mounting it on windshield. I guess I'll just have to settle with a dash mount
I've mount mine in the lower center of my windshield inbetween the passenger and driver side with the GSP pointing in my direction. I believe this is the most common setup that I've seen. It's safer than driving it on my lap.
One thing I don't get it is if I mount it to my dash, it would be in the same position as mounting it on windshield. I guess I'll just have to settle with a dash mount
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Originally Posted by hagakure
They want you to mount it on the left corner of your windshield? It's bs since the wire goes across your car and it also block a small your view.
I've mount mine in the lower center of my windshield inbetween the passenger and driver side with the GSP pointing in my direction. I believe this is the most common setup that I've seen. It's safer than driving it on my lap.
One thing I don't get it is if I mount it to my dash, it would be in the same position as mounting it on windshield. I guess I'll just have to settle with a dash mount
I've mount mine in the lower center of my windshield inbetween the passenger and driver side with the GSP pointing in my direction. I believe this is the most common setup that I've seen. It's safer than driving it on my lap.
One thing I don't get it is if I mount it to my dash, it would be in the same position as mounting it on windshield. I guess I'll just have to settle with a dash mount
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So what about puttin your license plate in your windshield instead of screwed to your bumper. Thats definently less that 60 inches, but it wouldnt really be "securely fastened." That could be fixed with some double sided tape though. I have seen some people do it but never really heard much about its legality from the 5/0 side. Most people just claim its the best way around having the license plate screwed into your bumper.
Negative... Has to be securly attached to the front of your bumper. Trust me lol. Dash doesn't cut it, but depending on the officer and his/her mood... your likely to get out of it with AT WORST a fix it ticket. 3m that thing to your bumper and go down to your local PD and have an on duty write it off. Or ask for a citizens assist lol. Cops have to help a "citizen in need" lol
5201. License plates shall at all times be securely fastened to the vehicle for which they are issued so as to prevent the plates from swinging, shall be mounted in a position so as to be clearly visible, and shall be maintained in a condition so as to be clearly legible. The rear license plate shall be mounted not less than 12 inches nor more than 60 inches from the ground, and the front license plate shall be mounted not more than 60 inches from the ground, except as follows:
Negative... Has to be securly attached to the front of your bumper. Trust me lol. Dash doesn't cut it, but depending on the officer and his/her mood... your likely to get out of it with AT WORST a fix it ticket. 3m that thing to your bumper and go down to your local PD and have an on duty write it off. Or ask for a citizens assist lol. Cops have to help a "citizen in need" lol