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From: SuperiorWash (MD)
Originally Posted by tom0613
i belive zpi makes motor mount
Stiffy's, etc are a better than a band aid but not the real cure.
If you can either let you car sit for a week or get some mounts from the wrecking yard, just the front, rear and dirvers side will do. you do as I have done on a few cars over the years.
Get some Devcon Flexane 80, remove those mounts(have to jack the engine up), clean, mask and fill with the Flexane, oven cure for 24 hours, let them sit for a week and room temp, install, done.
I removed all the factory counter weights(saved a few more pounds off the car) and have barely any added vibration at all and absolutely zero wheel hop, far less drivetrain ******(different terms can be used here) and much a more in control feeling entering and exiting corners now that the engine is not moving the suspension around.
$35 pint size two part kit is enough for two cars.
Rick
If you can either let you car sit for a week or get some mounts from the wrecking yard, just the front, rear and dirvers side will do. you do as I have done on a few cars over the years.
Get some Devcon Flexane 80, remove those mounts(have to jack the engine up), clean, mask and fill with the Flexane, oven cure for 24 hours, let them sit for a week and room temp, install, done.
I removed all the factory counter weights(saved a few more pounds off the car) and have barely any added vibration at all and absolutely zero wheel hop, far less drivetrain ******(different terms can be used here) and much a more in control feeling entering and exiting corners now that the engine is not moving the suspension around.
$35 pint size two part kit is enough for two cars.
Rick
Originally Posted by raamaudio
Stiffy's, etc are a better than a band aid but not the real cure.
If you can either let you car sit for a week or get some mounts from the wrecking yard, just the front, rear and dirvers side will do. you do as I have done on a few cars over the years.
Get some Devcon Flexane 80, remove those mounts(have to jack the engine up), clean, mask and fill with the Flexane, oven cure for 24 hours, let them sit for a week and room temp, install, done.
I removed all the factory counter weights(saved a few more pounds off the car) and have barely any added vibration at all and absolutely zero wheel hop, far less drivetrain ******(different terms can be used here) and much a more in control feeling entering and exiting corners now that the engine is not moving the suspension around.
$35 pint size two part kit is enough for two cars.
Rick
If you can either let you car sit for a week or get some mounts from the wrecking yard, just the front, rear and dirvers side will do. you do as I have done on a few cars over the years.
Get some Devcon Flexane 80, remove those mounts(have to jack the engine up), clean, mask and fill with the Flexane, oven cure for 24 hours, let them sit for a week and room temp, install, done.
I removed all the factory counter weights(saved a few more pounds off the car) and have barely any added vibration at all and absolutely zero wheel hop, far less drivetrain ******(different terms can be used here) and much a more in control feeling entering and exiting corners now that the engine is not moving the suspension around.
$35 pint size two part kit is enough for two cars.
Rick
Mainly autocross, I will drag race a few times and do some solo I and time trials as well as track days once the rest of the car is done(turbo system I am building).
On my last prodject car the, a turbo Matrix with 250WHP on the dyno the front wheels would move forward around two inches with the stock mounts and close to the same with a solid top mounted or front mounted torque "damper". That is alot of power being wasted twisting things so much to cause the wheels to be pushed that far out of their proper position.
Once the mounts were filled they would barely move at all.
Rick
On my last prodject car the, a turbo Matrix with 250WHP on the dyno the front wheels would move forward around two inches with the stock mounts and close to the same with a solid top mounted or front mounted torque "damper". That is alot of power being wasted twisting things so much to cause the wheels to be pushed that far out of their proper position.
Once the mounts were filled they would barely move at all.
Rick
From ZPI's AD... they make it seem like the install for their mounts wount be to difficult. I think they said there's 3 and you do em all indivually. Not sure if i believe em... course I have a tendancy to make a vry simple project way more difficilt then it needs to be
The front and drivers side are relatively easy, the front being very simple really.
The rear mount is a bit of a hassle I am sure, maybe more of a pain than led to believe but I did other things at the same time so hard for me to rate it on a scale.
Front, 1 out of 10
Side, 3 out of 10
Rear, from what I know which was not doing it seperately,
8 out of ten.
If you average the numbers this is a very easy job, taking individually, the rear may be a royal pain in the ****.
Again, I have not done it seperate so not able to know for sure but it was a hassle in what we were doing at the same time.
Rick
The rear mount is a bit of a hassle I am sure, maybe more of a pain than led to believe but I did other things at the same time so hard for me to rate it on a scale.
Front, 1 out of 10
Side, 3 out of 10
Rear, from what I know which was not doing it seperately,
8 out of ten.
If you average the numbers this is a very easy job, taking individually, the rear may be a royal pain in the ****.
Again, I have not done it seperate so not able to know for sure but it was a hassle in what we were doing at the same time.
Rick
i honestly wouldnt change them unless your getting in there and doing yoru clutch and flywheel. to do those you unbolt the driver side of the engine and drop it down, then pry it to the side. you get easy access to that rear one that way.. the rest just fall into place after that. to do individually, holy cow, thats a job and a half.
Just to be sure I am clear on this, I did not mean that I did or suggest doing them individually, just that two of them are very easy to remove and install and the rear one is a bit of a pain in the ****
Soros,
Not sure what you are asking, DIY is do it yourself, what we are talking about. Please explain what you are after a bit more
Rick

Soros,
Not sure what you are asking, DIY is do it yourself, what we are talking about. Please explain what you are after a bit more

Rick
zpi said that installing the mounts should not be that hard. We might be able to use a jack and keep the engine in place - undo the mounts - jack the car up an inch - then put the new mounts on. ...we shall see.
Originally Posted by xnevergiveinx
Originally Posted by zer0
Im gonna try and fill just the front mount for now. Hopefully that calms down some of the lash..
http://www.2gnt.com/www/corbin/mount.html
http://importnut.net/motormount.htm
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