Another Competition Clutch Fail
Also.. When your friend looks at getting a new clutch he should consider getting solid disk! Nothing wrong with dd a solid disk!
And that clutch has VERY MINIMAL glazing!
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Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Houston, TX
thing is with this cc stage 3 clutch he only made 4 passes down the 1/4mile and we installed this thing about 3-4months ago....I honestly thought it would hold up alot better...now if the guy was pushing over 300tq i could see this happening but this clutch is rated for much more than what he has going on.
just heard too much CC clutch failing prematurely i wouldnt even trust that name anymore.. My stage 4 clutchmasters is still holding fine after over 16K miles, even my axle went first.. but I would still vote on ACT street for my next clutch
Thats what I was thinking. I've put 11,000 miles on my Competition Clutch Stage 3. It's seen at least two dozen runs at the 1/8th and 1/4th mile tracks. It's seen lots of time on the dyno.
I had an ACT stock replacement clutch in my boosted 4E Tercel. Best clutch I've ever had. Infact, like Carlos, I'll be going with a ACT clutch again.
I had an ACT stock replacement clutch in my boosted 4E Tercel. Best clutch I've ever had. Infact, like Carlos, I'll be going with a ACT clutch again.
Last edited by TheFantasticG; Oct 3, 2009 at 02:59 PM.
I'll keep that in mind since mine is due next...
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Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Houston, TX
Thats what I was thinking. I've put 11,000 miles on my Competition Clutch Stage 3. It's seen at least two dozen runs at the 1/8th and 1/4th mile tracks. It's seen lots of time on the dyno.
I had an ACT stock replacement clutch in my boosted 4E Tercel. Best clutch I've ever had. Infact, like Carlos, I'll be going with a ACT clutch again.
I had an ACT stock replacement clutch in my boosted 4E Tercel. Best clutch I've ever had. Infact, like Carlos, I'll be going with a ACT clutch again.
thats just crazy mang, iv seen that clutch hold up and iv seen it fail...idk what to think at this point.
Its like drawing straws man.
I don't know how many clutches of each CC sells but it would be nice to know their failure rate.
I think Pete's failed on him too, he could still change gears but was getting horrible vibration.
I never want to need to change my clutch again, it is such a PITA and w/o you guys from TX or FL around it would SUCK.
How is CC going about repair or replacing their deficient clutches? Are they giving people hell about them or offering up free replacements?
Customer service won't always make up for a ____ty product but if they're honoring warranties and standing behind their product maybe someone will give them another shot instead of buying another costly clutch.
I don't know how many clutches of each CC sells but it would be nice to know their failure rate.
I think Pete's failed on him too, he could still change gears but was getting horrible vibration.
I never want to need to change my clutch again, it is such a PITA and w/o you guys from TX or FL around it would SUCK.
How is CC going about repair or replacing their deficient clutches? Are they giving people hell about them or offering up free replacements?
Customer service won't always make up for a ____ty product but if they're honoring warranties and standing behind their product maybe someone will give them another shot instead of buying another costly clutch.
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,271
From: Houston, TX
Carlos isnt doing anything about it and i dont blame him really...most likely they will give him a little crap about it and maybe they will replace it but it will take too long to go through that whole process. He already has a clutch on its way that should be here by monday then he gets his fly wheel back from the machine shop tuesday from resurfacing (blame me for that i told him it would be a good idea to do it, kinda start fresh kinda deal).
alright guys, this is my clutch. First of all, I baby the cr@p out of my car. I have seen soo many drive axle stories (including Ace), that shaving a tenth off of the 1/4 wasn't even worth it for me. To be more specific about mileage, it had about 6450 miles on it. The clutch started acting funny the during the first month after install. While engaging the clutch at low rpm in first, second and reverse, the drive train would start to shake up a bit. For example; whenever I was going in reverse, normally I don't let the clutch out completely if I'm just moving a couple of feet. The idea it to feather it just a bit to get it moving and that's when it would act weird, almost as if it would grab, lose, grab, lose, and so on, it was kinda weird.
Last week the car started to make some noise at idle, I though it was the throw-out bearing and tried to lube it up a bit with grease. It did go away for about a day and then it came back. Lube it again and went to work, after I got out of work not even 5 miles into my trip back home I couldn't get the car to shift into any gear. At this point I'm like, WTH is going on? Finally got the car to shift and drove it in second gear to the nearest auto parts to get some lithium grease. Sprayed that puppy up and it worked again, at this point I didn't even know what to think.
That afternoon I drove the car to several places, on the last one the car gave up on me and had to drive about 6 miles of stop and go traffic in second gear (thank God I did the oil change that morning). That evening I tried lubing it again and drove around my neighborhood to see if it worked, luckily it did work. Problem was that every time I decelerated in any gear, once I pressed the clutch to change gear I would have some restriction on the pedal and it wouldn't shift. If I shifted while in acceleration, it would work. :O Yeah, really confused at this point. At this point the clutch is making a faint bearing noise, like something was loose.
Once Chris and I dropped the tranny, we found out that the throw-out bearing wasn't as bad as we though it would. It had some minimal play on it, which I don't even know if it is supposed to have at some after a couple thousand miles. I don't remember the stock one having any type of play. Once I unbolted the pressure plate one of the big spring fell on my damn face, and the little one was stock in between the clutch disk and the pressure plate. I guess that's the reason it wasn't going anywhere.
My question is: why did it work every time I sprayed the throw-out bearing with grease? Is it possible that I had both problems at the same time, just one worst than the other and it finally gave up?
What ya guys think?
Last week the car started to make some noise at idle, I though it was the throw-out bearing and tried to lube it up a bit with grease. It did go away for about a day and then it came back. Lube it again and went to work, after I got out of work not even 5 miles into my trip back home I couldn't get the car to shift into any gear. At this point I'm like, WTH is going on? Finally got the car to shift and drove it in second gear to the nearest auto parts to get some lithium grease. Sprayed that puppy up and it worked again, at this point I didn't even know what to think.
That afternoon I drove the car to several places, on the last one the car gave up on me and had to drive about 6 miles of stop and go traffic in second gear (thank God I did the oil change that morning). That evening I tried lubing it again and drove around my neighborhood to see if it worked, luckily it did work. Problem was that every time I decelerated in any gear, once I pressed the clutch to change gear I would have some restriction on the pedal and it wouldn't shift. If I shifted while in acceleration, it would work. :O Yeah, really confused at this point. At this point the clutch is making a faint bearing noise, like something was loose.
Once Chris and I dropped the tranny, we found out that the throw-out bearing wasn't as bad as we though it would. It had some minimal play on it, which I don't even know if it is supposed to have at some after a couple thousand miles. I don't remember the stock one having any type of play. Once I unbolted the pressure plate one of the big spring fell on my damn face, and the little one was stock in between the clutch disk and the pressure plate. I guess that's the reason it wasn't going anywhere.
My question is: why did it work every time I sprayed the throw-out bearing with grease? Is it possible that I had both problems at the same time, just one worst than the other and it finally gave up?
What ya guys think?
Carlos isnt doing anything about it and i dont blame him really...most likely they will give him a little crap about it and maybe they will replace it but it will take too long to go through that whole process. He already has a clutch on its way that should be here by monday then he gets his fly wheel back from the machine shop tuesday from resurfacing (blame me for that i told him it would be a good idea to do it, kinda start fresh kinda deal).
Carlos, I think that since you stated you had problems after the initial install that the clutch could have been defective out the box. I know for a fact it wasn't due to install error, not when you know a decent amount, Chris was with you and if i'm not mistaken I saw pics of more guys with you on the install day too. I personally think the clutch may have had some type of manufacturing defect out of the box and i'm surprised you made it 6000 miles on it.
When I first installed mine the only problem I had was getting adjusted to the stiffness of the pedal.
I'm just saying all of your clutch and even TOB issues could be related to the manufacturing of the clutch. I know CC made some modifications to the TOB and I used the CC TOB but what i've been told is to simply go to the stealership and purchase an OEM TOB.
When I first installed mine the only problem I had was getting adjusted to the stiffness of the pedal.
I'm just saying all of your clutch and even TOB issues could be related to the manufacturing of the clutch. I know CC made some modifications to the TOB and I used the CC TOB but what i've been told is to simply go to the stealership and purchase an OEM TOB.
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Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Houston, TX
I'll try contacting them on Monday and see what they can do about it, I paid a lot for that sucker so, we'll see. Any good company backs up their products, lets just hope this is one of them. I'm a very honest person and when I say I didn't beat on it I mean it, but in the business world it doesn't say much.





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