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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Yes perfect Sergio. In fact maybe start at 13.0:1 at idle only and that should smooth things out and go higher. I believe I set the other Tc's to around 13.5 or maybe 14:1 at idle. Some highly modified RX-7's actually run 11.5-12:1 at idle. Crazy but that is the way they like it sometimes.
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Originally Posted by Guru
Yes perfect Sergio. In fact maybe start at 13.0:1 at idle only and that should smooth things out and go higher. I believe I set the other Tc's to around 13.5 or maybe 14:1 at idle. Some highly modified RX-7's actually run 11.5-12:1 at idle. Crazy but that is the way they like it sometimes.
Jeez rx-7's go that rich @ idle?!?! lol

They don't teach that stuff in the tuning books/articles i've read so far >.<

Experience pwns.

I'll try that out then.

BTW I finally found a reliable mechanic in my area Dan. He cleaned up all the little problems a few weeks ago. Clocking the turbo, like you had recommended to me a long time ago. Which I didn't think could be done, because of the space. But he made it work, lol. Long story short it all worked out great.
Old Sep 11, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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Tuning books? They have such things? I learned to tune by watching over my mentor for countless hours on end on the dyno and then spending even more countless hours on the dyno myself.
Old Sep 11, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Guru
Tuning books? They have such things? I learned to tune by watching over my mentor for countless hours on end on the dyno and then spending even more countless hours on the dyno myself.
Yea ^^

Most of the books i've seen have theoretical mumbo jumbo, which hasn't really helped me idle the car right, lol.

BTW, how's jackies car coming along? Have you completed it?
Old Sep 11, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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One thing about motors, they are happiest and typically sound the best when they are running rich (however that does mean a power loss lol)
Old Sep 11, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by equinox2355
One thing about motors, they are happiest and typically sound the best when they are running rich (however that does mean a power loss lol)
Yea i've, been playing around with a couple of maps I have, from the different times i've auto tuned parts of the map.

I forgot to lean out the boosted area, on the map I just uploaded.

In boost the AFR is back to 9.0

It sounds kinda farty, lmao.

The last time I had it this rich in boost, it was shooting flames sporadically =p

I have a couple of eye witnesses who can vouch for it
Old Sep 12, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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Jackie's motor I haven't even started putting together. I have all the parts just been busy. Hopefully over the winter I can put it together and get it in the car in the Spring. Been working on my EVO X lately.
Old Sep 12, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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I <3 the way the evo X looks =D

Did you up the boost on it already? lol
Old Sep 12, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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hey guys i need help wiring the air intake temp sensor, i tapped one wire to the blue wire on the maf sensor harness and the other i grounded to one bolt of the valve cover, i turned it on and it didnt work..
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hey guys i need help wiring the air intake temp sensor, i tapped one wire to the blue wire on the maf sensor harness and the other i grounded to one bolt of the valve cover, i turned it on and it didnt work..
Are you sure its properly tapped?

Just asking, because i've made a similar mistake on other occasions.

I have mine grounded to the cylinder head btw. Not sure if that makes a difference.

Once your in the hydra, whats the value it reads for the AIT??
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 01:47 AM
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im gonna try looking for another ground but yeah it reads 13F on a 100 weather, i didnt solder or crimp it completely coz im not sure if it works but it has some very good contact
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 04:20 AM
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Well not to change the subject. But i've been keeping in contact with Phil @ Element tuning. and i'm sending him a e-mail tomorrow with the Volt. readings that he needs so long story short i will have the harness by the end of next weekend at the latest. what harness you ask... for the 2step/ALS and i think WOT shifts to work properly with the hydra and tc.
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 04:25 AM
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^^ thats sweet, hope it works great then you can post some video clips..
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 04:30 AM
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here i found the maf wiring diagram, its the blue wire

http://scionlife.org/Scion_Docs/2005...%20control.pdf

no i need to find out why its not reading right
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ace83
here i found the maf wiring diagram, its the blue wire
http://scionlife.org/Scion_Docs/2005...%20control.pdf
no i need to find out why its not reading right
Are you sure it has to be conected to engine ground and not sensor ground?

Pito
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecanica_Pito
Originally Posted by Ace83
here i found the maf wiring diagram, its the blue wire
http://scionlife.org/Scion_Docs/2005...%20control.pdf
no i need to find out why its not reading right
Are you sure it has to be conected to engine ground and not sensor ground?

Pito
im a noob and im kinda lost of what you said, but sensor ground you mean i tap it to the ground wire of the harness? i just checked the diagram again and i found the grounding points, im gonna put it there..
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Ace83
Originally Posted by Mecanica_Pito
Originally Posted by Ace83
here i found the maf wiring diagram, its the blue wire
http://scionlife.org/Scion_Docs/2005...%20control.pdf
no i need to find out why its not reading right
Are you sure it has to be conected to engine ground and not sensor ground?
Pito
im a noob and im kinda lost of what you said, but sensor ground you mean i tap it to the ground wire of the harness? i just checked the diagram again and i found the grounding points, im gonna put it there..
Wire one wire of the IAT sensor to the blue wire on the MAF and the other wire to sensor ground; not engine ground.
In fact you can use the sensor ground also available in the MAF conector. It is one of the red wires (pin 5 on the MAF connector).
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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^^ i'll look into that.. there's two red wires though.. not sure which is pin 5, heres a pic



i ground it to the red wire on the left most?
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ace83
^^ i'll look into that.. there's two red wires though.. not sure which is pin 5, heres a pic
i ground it to the red wire on the left most?
The red wire that sits in one end of the connector
1-Yellow
2-White
3-Red
4-Blue---->IAT
5-Red---->Sensor Ground

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Originally Posted by Ace83
^^ i'll look into that.. there's two red wires though.. not sure which is pin 5, heres a pic

i ground it to the red wire on the left most?
Side note.
You do know that the blue wire for the IAT requires you to cut the stock wire and tape up/not use the part of it going to the MAF; right ?

I mention that just in case!

Pito



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