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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
This is the simple truth, and there is no need to get bent out of shape about it. Time will ultimately tell the quality of any product. That is why we did 8 months of street and track testing back in 2005 before we released our S1 kit, which was designed as an entry level kit capable of supporting up to 400HP.


So, you want to compare 8 months of daily driving to the grocery store and a couple of Drag passes to 3 seasons worth of straight Time Attack on both Stock and Built Motors? And saying your 8 months is actually "Test of Time"....

Guess we live in different worlds...


I see it this way....8 months is squat. The way I see it, is Dezod used their Customers cars to "TEST" longevity.


PTuning.....Is doing the "TEST" on their own car in the most strenuous activity you can do. Couple of passes at a drag strip with 13sec 1/4 mile runs is NOT strenuous as Back to Back Time Attack Seasons, where you running WOT full blast for time periods. Long enough to generate more HEAT than any drag strip pass.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
I'm pretty sure I have had more miles on a boosted tC than ANYONE mentioned in this thread. If a ZPI turbo kit can withstand that, it's just stupid to think or question even whether or not a PTuning kit can withstand daily driving....
How many sir? If you are less than 80K boosted miles, please don't respond.

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While were at those questions, I would like to know how many Dezod kits are running more than 10lbs of boost? And how many Dezod kits are running on a Road course for a prolonged period at a time.
PLENTY sir! I can name about 10-15 customers whom I have spoken to over the past 4-5 business days.

Running a road race course, we have quite a few racing customers. Here is one I posted on our FB page just a week ago..........

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.ph...u=ZFtZL&ref=mf

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.ph...u=Tgb_H&ref=mf

Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
So, you want to compare 8 months of daily driving to the grocery store and a couple of Drag passes to 3 seasons worth of straight Time Attack on both Stock and Built Motors? And saying your 8 months is actually "Test of Time"....

Guess we live in different worlds...
Do you know what happened? What failed in their setup? No. You are merely an outsider looking in like we all are. Will they ever tell you what exactly happened, what failed, what was correct? I doubt it. Go ask Bosch or Delphi the same about a sensor, actuator or pump the same questions and good luck on getting a response.

Lastly, our initial testing was done to ensure that the design elements of the kit where sound and can handle DD, Auto-X and Drag use. The test of time I was referring to is some of our original kit owners whom have 40, 50, 60, 70K miles on them. THAT is the test of time I am referring to.

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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
I'm pretty sure I have had more miles on a boosted tC than ANYONE mentioned in this thread. If a ZPI turbo kit can withstand that, it's just stupid to think or question even whether or not a PTuning kit can withstand daily driving....
i didnt mean anything to p-tuning with what i said so if there any hard feelings with me and mr.c i truly appoligize.

I do remember you travis having issues with your zpi manifold cracking...am i wrong?...it didnt happen in one day...am i wrong?...it took some time right? thats called the test of time and issues that may arrise from a new kit...(btw zpi had a race car too that had their kit on it...just saying)

just saying that time will tell the tale...but i have no doubt that p-tunings kit is good to go. It looks good, it looks strong, and id rock it anyday. A lot of thought went into the kit and it shows. I wish the guys at p-tuning the best of luck in the race season and cant wait to see one of my boys with the kit so i can get some Personal EXP with it.

so in short im sorry Mr.C if i came off like an ___...
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We all agree that PTuning's kit is in the upper ranks along with World Racing and Dezod so lets start being constructive huh? /pray
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
How many sir? If you are less than 80K boosted miles, please don't respond.

Are you serious? I was boosted around the same time You "TEST" (Joe Dezod) was dude, and was still boosted After Joe switched to an RX8. Don't go there.



Originally Posted by paul_dezod
PLENTY sir! I can name about 10-15 customers whom I have spoken to over the past 4-5 business days.

Running a road race course, we have quite a few racing customers. Here is one I posted on our FB page just a week ago..........

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.ph...u=ZFtZL&ref=mf

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.ph...u=Tgb_H&ref=mf

Oh really, why no dyno sheets to show how much power they can make. Figured you being the type to use customer cars for promotional purposes would be all over posting how much power they making. I don't think I've ever seen a 400whp Dyno sheet of a Dezod turbo kit. Please by all means showcase it. You put peoples cars on your website before....why didn't you post up those 20 PSI pulls?

And I don't FaceBook or use ___ Myspace either.



Originally Posted by paul_dezod
How many sir? If you are less than 80K boosted miles, please don't respond.

Are you serious? I was boosted around the same time You "TEST" (Joe Dezod) was dude, and was still boosted After Joe switched to an RX8. Don't go there.



Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Do you know what happened? What failed in their setup? No. You are merely an outsider looking in like we all are. Will they ever tell you what exactly happened, what failed, what was correct? I doubt it. Go ask Bosch or Delphi the same about a sensor, actuator or pump the same questions and good luck on getting a response.

Lastly, our initial testing was done to ensure that the design elements of the kit where sound and can handle DD, Auto-X and Drag use. The test of time I was referring to is some of our original kit owners whom have 40, 50, 60, 70K miles on them. THAT is the test of time I am referring to.

Sorry bro, not buying it. Weak. Saying you have never had a problem with an oil dipstick because you drove the car to get groceries for 40k miles means little to me. Don't matter if it's 500lbs of boost....if you daily driving like a sensible adult, its not worth mentioning. The whole Daily Driving bit comment deserves a "Face Palm".
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PTuning takes it by a landslide...

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Originally Posted by Crush Automotive Customs
i didnt mean anything to p-tuning with what i said so if there any hard feelings with me and mr.c i truly appoligize.

I do remember you travis having issues with your zpi manifold cracking...am i wrong?...it didnt happen in one day...am i wrong?...it took some time right? thats called the test of time and issues that may arrise from a new kit...(btw zpi had a race car too that had their kit on it...just saying)

just saying that time will tell the tale...but i have no doubt that p-tunings kit is good to go. It looks good, it looks strong, and id rock it anyday. A lot of thought went into the kit and it shows. I wish the guys at p-tuning the best of luck in the race season and cant wait to see one of my boys with the kit so i can get some Personal EXP with it.

so in short im sorry Mr.C if i came off like an ___...

Manifolds crack from heat am I correct? So, with that said....driving it over time and having a crack developed....I would go so far as to say that if it was brand new, and I took it to a Time Attack track and drove it hard like you would....It would probably cracked by the 2nd or so event. That's my point. Track Abuse will produce failure LONG before 3 years worth of driving ever would. ZPI had a street car they took to the drag strip a lot. Not a race car.


Ps...I don't think you came off like an butt, so it's all good.
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I've finished my commentary.. Felt it was dumb and needed more input from someone who has the longevity mentioned, still here, and don't plan on leaving anytime soon.
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Hey Mr.C have you guys gotten any orders heading to Texas? Houston? an address? Ima stalk them...lmao...but seriously anyone order from the Houston area?
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Originally Posted by Crush Automotive Customs
i didnt mean anything to p-tuning with what i said so if there any hard feelings with me and mr.c i truly appoligize.

I do remember you travis having issues with your zpi manifold cracking...am i wrong?...it didnt happen in one day...am i wrong?...it took some time right? thats called the test of time and issues that may arrise from a new kit...(btw zpi had a race car too that had their kit on it...just saying)

just saying that time will tell the tale...but i have no doubt that p-tunings kit is good to go. It looks good, it looks strong, and id rock it anyday. A lot of thought went into the kit and it shows. I wish the guys at p-tuning the best of luck in the race season and cant wait to see one of my boys with the kit so i can get some Personal EXP with it.

so in short im sorry Mr.C if i came off like an ___...
Crush, no apologies needed. You and everyone in this community has the right to be optimistic--heck we're talking about the internet here. It's easy to right up a bunch of technical jargon, it's much harder to back it up. The more you know, the more power to you and the more you can filter out all the BS, lies and misleading information you read on a forum. We're not here to sell you a big brake kit when all you really need is a set of brake pads.

We put a lot of thought, time and money into everything we've developed, our philosophy for product development has always been, "if it ain't broken, don't touch it." This turbo kit has been in the making since 2007, when we set out to develop a turbo kit for our race car that we could use for the production kit. Look at every detail of every component in our kit which was taken right out of our race car's turbo kit and compare it to some of the other kits and you will understand why we designed our kit the way we did.

So let's give the thread back to the OP.

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