So i took a trip to his tuner in disbelief! AND OMG!!!

DAWWGGGSS CHEKKK OUT MY PQWA!

straight meth look at the powaa!

no race gas! this guy is a TQ MASTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

 

dodaddy,

My technical knowledge is not anywhere near the level of MrC or Toan. So, I feel like I can respond to the post with a calm head.

SL community in general is much more educated about force induction then they were, let say 1-2 years ago. So, anything that is out of the ordinary, we be questioned. Maybe the approach is not so refine at time. So, don't take it the wrong way.

I can assured you there is nothing to be gain for Toan to contact your tuner. I think what everyone is asking is for your tuner to give more technical details on how he was able to achieve these great numbers. Once everyone is satisfy with the technical explanation, hell, he may become the hottest commodity on the Scion tC market. Honestly, there is nothing to loose and everything to gain for your tuner. Again, this is assuming that everything makes sense to the general public.

Regards,
Mike @ PTUNING

 

lol - toan/mrC tell him what your average hp levels are on 8lbs with that kit/dezods kit/your kit

give us an average.

dodaddy .....wait and see how much lower the numbers are (his dyno is very conservative). he is going to say prob 245-255whp and trq

 

zz

 

^^ I've asked my tuner to log onto the forums but I don't know if he'll get a chance to actually post up and explain. I don't know what questions I would ask my tuner in order for everyone to gain an understanding of his tuning method.

I'm not here to call anyone bad tuners or anything especially ptuning, but what I'm saying is that people are being ignorant and not knowing the full side of things before coming to a conclusion as to if my numbers are real or fake. If I knew what questions to ask, or if someone actually asked me a valid question like which gear did I do the pull in, I can ask him, but other than that I wouldn't know what else to ask.

 

you must of missed a huge part of this thread.. my car is running 100% methanol injection, so that average is not going to do any good. The methanol shoots right before the throttle body.

 

ok good - so add 25hp to those numbers - its your trq we are calling you on - not the hp

 

^^ another ignorant post from you. SOunds like you might be one of those guys that buy a part and assume that since it says adds 10hp you believe it. Grow up.

Here's a writeup from modified.com. They are running 50/50 meth, not 100% like myself and they were able to go from 378.8 whp/294 tq to 426 whp/341 tq with adding about 3 psi. Maybe they are fluffing there numbers too.

http://www.modified.com/tech/modp-09...kit/apexi.html

 

zz

 

And you believe meth injections doubles your power.

 

so you jsut proved why your numbers are so high done

 

greddy was part of the poll so i figured i might as well post my dyno sheet since you even said post up on your first post.

I can keep proving people wrong but it takes a man to admit they were. CarbonXe and Cory james the last posts from you guys just shows your still ignorant and not willing to learn, especially since i posted a write up and review from modified.com You guys probably just realized that you were wrong and now can't even admit to it, but whatever, i don't care. I'm more in this debate to prove that my numbers are real and my tuner is legit, not to build my ego and self esteem of off people who admit there wrong to me, or people who can't admit.

 

zz

 

zz

 

Thank you for proving PTuning right.

20 PSI BEFORE METH : 378.8 whp and 294.1 ft-lbs
23 PSI AFTER METH : 426.6 whp and 341.0 ft-lbs

341 - 294.1 = 46.9
46.9/3 = 15.6

They gained 15.6WTQ/PSI, ON TOP of the meth injection.

 

dodaddy I love you. You made my day

 

Either way, a lot of people on this thread assume they are tuners and know everything when they don't. Especially since methanol is involved, that changes all variables.

Good luck with finding the right kit, if my tuner comes on here I will have him post probably on a new thread of how he tuned my car, and I apologize for threadjacking.

 

zz

 

Maybe you are illiterate or just don't ge tit..

WITH INJECTION KIT AT 1.4 BAR GAINS MADE + 31.5 hp + 25.4 torque BEFORE 378.8 whp and 294.1 ft-lbs AFTER 410.3 whp and 319.5 ft-lbs WITH INJECTION KIT AT 1.6 BAR GAINS MADE + 16.3 hp + 21.5 torque BEFORE 410.3 whp and 319.5 ft-lbs AFTER 426.6 whp and 341.0 ft-lbs

The first dyno reading was no methanol involved. 378 whp/294tq similar gains to my tune.

And with your screwed up logic, and not listening to what I said earlier.. every tuner is different and has there own tuning niche. My tuner is awesome at getting torque and tuning with methanol.. not every tuner is good at that.

 

It's a smaller motor, with a smaller turbo right in that turbos efficiency range. Like PTuning said, roughly 10hp/tq per PSI is typical, they gained 15TQ per PSI with the 50/50. That means they only gained 5WTQ per PSI from the meth injection. Since you're running 100%, let's QUADUPLE that number. 5WTQ*400% = 20WTQ. 20WTQ*2PSI = 40WTQ. That's still 60WTQ less than you're claiming, and I'm 104% sure that going from 50/50 to 100% will not increase the efficiency of meth injection by 400%.