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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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when will mine ship?
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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I just got your order in, so those will be going out tomorrow : )

You should see them early next week!
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Just got mine today, Thanks
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 02:26 AM
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Got mine as well, I'll bring them down to the shop next week sometime! They look VERY NICE!
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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Just got my set in today also. Installed just the fronts. Did a couple of hardesh launches in my Turbo'ed tC, and man, I could really feel the difference. Feels better then when the car was N/A even though it's putting another 100 wheel torque to the pavement. The car used to wheel hop all the time at the 1/4 mile track N/A.

I guess I'll just have to get used to the vibration though. I can live with it.
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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installed both front and rear mounts yesturday and it took us 5 freakin hours.
luckily my friend had a lift in his garage and all the tools you will possibly need. (he also has air tools)

well anyways I just want to give advice to those who are putting it on themselves..

-Front ones are a peice of cake, just need a 14mm deep socket
-Like everyone says, the REAR mount is a PITA!!!! I find it impossible to do without the car on a lift.
-The center peice that goes into the poly mounts WAS TOO LONG to fit into its place. Ended up shaving 1/8th of an inch off
-Had to take off the downpipe and midpipe just to make it easier for us to move around and see things.
-Did I say the rear mount is A PAIN IN THE A HOLE!
-When you have the rear mount out..you have to hack-saw the stock mount like you never hacked before, and hammer the cr4p out of it
-Make sure to lube the poly mounts so it can easily get it
-When you put that center peice into the poly mount make sure its flush or it WILL NOT FIT! (thats why we just cut a lot off so it can clear easily, and it wont hurt it if you cut to much, it is just to center that bolt that goes throught it.)
-Make sure the bracket is on before you put the mount back in


I wish I had a camera to show you guys how we did it..
you need to be really patient and not get frustrated easily because installing the rear mount will make you very mad lol


well now the mounts are installed and the car feels great. It is a big difference from when I had my ingalls TD in. The vibrations are a little harder but that was expected with these poly mounts. Shifting is nice and downshifting feels very smooth. Havent launched it yet but from the feel of these things i think i will be very happy when im back at the tracks at qualcomm (:

if you have any questions PM me and i will try to help
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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I am pretty sure everyone understands what a pita the rear mount is. I was able to do mine in a fairly short amount of time so I will try to help out as much as possible.
There are a few tools that will make this project go much smoother:
-lift
-pole jack
-long extensions
-wobbly sockets
-ratcheting wrenches
-air hammer w/ exhaust cutting attachment
-vice and a swing press

If you don't have most of these tools I wouldn't recommend trying to do this yourself.

I think the lift is pretty self explanatory.
The pole jack will help rock the motor to make removal and installation easier.
With the s-pipe and the midpipe removed you will be able to access most of the bolts on the mount with wobbly sockets and the right length extensions. The bolts on the transmission that are difficult to get to is where I used the ratcheting wrenches.
Once you have the mount out, put it in a vice and use the air hammer to press the old mount out. This should take no more than a couple of minutes with an air hammer and the right attachment. Next you will insert the new mount only to find out that it won't slide into the mount on the cross member. This is where the vice and the swing press come into play. Put the mount from the cross member in the vice and whack it with a hammer to open it up a 1/4 of and inch. The new insert will now slide in with ease and when you tighten down the bolt you will have a nice snug fit.

Any questions let me know.

-Jeremy
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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just ordered these last night, if i dont' have a lift is it recommended to take it to a mechanic and have them do it?
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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lol any one in illinois area that can help me out w/ this when i attempt it during the summer??
Old May 6, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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put the front in today. i really like the new feel.

however...the vibrations are driving me nuts. im not the kinda guy who craves a headache. i even have the stock exhaust cuz i hate the loud noise and vibrations from fart cannons.

so...does the vibrations really get less after it "breaks" in? if so, how long does that take?
Old May 14, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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I installed these today, Wooooooooooweeeeeee what a job.. Took me and me brother about 5 hours to do. We did it in the driveway on ramps! Anyways it wasn't fun, the positives are alot better shifting through the gears, when your in second gear and you let off the throddle you don't get that slamming of the motor bouncing back and forth anymore so thats cool. The only downside of the mounts are installing them and the vibrations.
Do the vibrations get better after they break in ?
Old May 14, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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i had my front in for a week or so. vibrations were pretty much the same.

anyway, mine are now for sale cuz i can't stand the vibration at idle.
Old May 14, 2007 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by satoman44
i had my front in for a week or so. vibrations were pretty much the same.

anyway, mine are now for sale cuz i can't stand the vibration at idle.
dood, give it time, the vibration on my car went away at idle after like a month or so., now i only hear it when i take off between 700rpm-1000rpm, and thats hardly no vibrations.

id give it a chance.
Old May 14, 2007 | 02:25 AM
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i cant tell a difference and the vibration is VERRRRRRY bad
Old May 15, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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318 - can you be more specific? I have no motor in the car so I can't use the mounts yet, but I'd like to hear what you are experiencing.
Old May 15, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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well I cant tell any difference with them installed or the stock ones in. I dont know what im suppose to be looking for but for 160 bucks, I feel like all I have done is bought vibration. At idle the vibration is more than id like to have. After I installed and crankd the car for the first time i thought I left something loose or something but thats not the case....They just vibrate very bad at idle.
Old May 15, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 318_tC
i cant tell a difference and the vibration is VERRRRRRY bad
If you cant tell a difference then you dont know how to drive your car....with the power you are claiming these mounts should make a terrmendous difference....in turn it will give you vibrations as well...Everyone here with the mounts, have warned all that there are vibrations....if you are not use to them or never had something like this before then the vibrations will seem a little harsh....over time they get a little better as well as you get use to them....These arent for everyone so if you dont like them then sell them but the mounts are a quality product that without a doubt controls the movement of the engine....
Old May 15, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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I don't know if I'd attach him like that but....

318, did you just have stock mounts before or did you have an engine torque dampner as well?

I can't speak to these mounts, but I know the ETD will pass alot of vibrations through the cab, especially at idle. I put one on my roomates car and she hated the vibration so much that it's now disconnected and only gets hooked up at the track.

Test this out... at idle, when the car is vibrating, where do you feel it? Steering wheel? radio cover? is it a buzzing sound or is it a real vibration? Then turn off your a/c and tell me how it changes the sound/vibration.

We'll go from that point...

Now about your question: "What you're supposed to be looking for"
During load (on the road or on a dyno) your engine moves a significant amount forward and backward. This movement delays torque to the wheels and does not allow for consistent control of the power to the ground. These new mounts are supposed to reduce that movement and allow you to put more power to the ground.
The easiest way to see how much they have improved your ride is around a corner acceleration.
Before the ETD, driving around a corner in first gear 20 mpg (non turbo'd car) with all the weight on the left wheel (right turn) punching the gas would roast the right tire till the car straightened out. Straight line launching would result in wheel hop at anything more than a mild launch.
After the ETD, the same turn, the car will hook up significantly faster. Straight line launching also allows for significantly more aggressive throttle (not 4k clutch dumping, but a lot more than stock).

Hope this helps.
Old May 15, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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HAHA ur right I dont know how to drive my car thats the problem.

No I just cant tell a difference with the mounts and the vibration is crazy. Im a paying customer and thats my review I dont see the problem with my post.



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