Scion tC compared to Integra?
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Re: 07 TC is Faster than the older TC's
Originally Posted by nyteshade
Originally Posted by tC-Collin
Originally Posted by super_sci_tc
Originally Posted by RSXaco
from specs
rs/ls/gs = 140 hp
gsr = 170 hp
30 hp is pretty marginal
try to test drive both and see which one you like better
also 0.5 sec difference on a track is a good size gap
rs/ls/gs = 140 hp
gsr = 170 hp
30 hp is pretty marginal
try to test drive both and see which one you like better
also 0.5 sec difference on a track is a good size gap
WOW which TC are you referring to hear. I have an 07 TC and it comes with a 160 HP stock. The older TC's (stock) are slower than the stock 07.
I actually had a good friend of mine who has driven the 06 TC, drive my TC and he said that he likes the 07 a lot more cause the upgrades in performance alone are awesome.
hes talking about integras. have you ever heard of a Ls or GSR tC?
and what upgrades in performance? my 05 has 160 stock too.. your friend is an idiot
haha 
again.Oh wait he's right, the new tCs have more HP, thay have 161 HP lol
But in all seriousness, i heard that 07s feel faster but have no proof in the numbers
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Re: 07 TC is Faster than the older TC's
Originally Posted by tC-Collin
Originally Posted by super_sci_tc
Originally Posted by RSXaco
from specs
rs/ls/gs = 140 hp
gsr = 170 hp
30 hp is pretty marginal
try to test drive both and see which one you like better
also 0.5 sec difference on a track is a good size gap
rs/ls/gs = 140 hp
gsr = 170 hp
30 hp is pretty marginal
try to test drive both and see which one you like better
also 0.5 sec difference on a track is a good size gap
WOW which TC are you referring to hear. I have an 07 TC and it comes with a 160 HP stock. The older TC's (stock) are slower than the stock 07.
I actually had a good friend of mine who has driven the 06 TC, drive my TC and he said that he likes the 07 a lot more cause the upgrades in performance alone are awesome.
hes talking about integras. have you ever heard of a Ls or GSR tC?
and what upgrades in performance? my 05 has 160 stock too.. your friend is an idiot
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lol.... are you sure? lol
i can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.. but i was trying to say true. and then i adapted it to www.zipit.com from austin powers..
i can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.. but i was trying to say true. and then i adapted it to www.zipit.com from austin powers..
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Re: 07 TC is Faster than the older TC's
Originally Posted by itzjere
Originally Posted by tC-Collin
Originally Posted by super_sci_tc
Originally Posted by RSXaco
from specs
rs/ls/gs = 140 hp
gsr = 170 hp
30 hp is pretty marginal
try to test drive both and see which one you like better
also 0.5 sec difference on a track is a good size gap
rs/ls/gs = 140 hp
gsr = 170 hp
30 hp is pretty marginal
try to test drive both and see which one you like better
also 0.5 sec difference on a track is a good size gap
WOW which TC are you referring to hear. I have an 07 TC and it comes with a 160 HP stock. The older TC's (stock) are slower than the stock 07.
I actually had a good friend of mine who has driven the 06 TC, drive my TC and he said that he likes the 07 a lot more cause the upgrades in performance alone are awesome.
hes talking about integras. have you ever heard of a Ls or GSR tC?
and what upgrades in performance? my 05 has 160 stock too.. your friend is an idiot
Okay bro my buddy isn't an idiot first of all. Second, I know he's right because I have had other friends who are familiar with the older TC's and they say that mine is quicker as well. You go drive an 07 and then tell me whats up.
And by the way of course I know what a gsr is or guess you could just say integra in general. I have a good friend with a turboed GSR. Besides I have worked at two different dealerships in the past so I know about most cars that are on the market in the US.
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Re: 07 TC is Faster than the older TC's
Originally Posted by super_sci_tc
Okay bro my buddy isn't an idiot first of all. Second, I know he's right because I have had other friends who are familiar with the older TC's and they say that mine is quicker as well. You go drive an 07 and then tell me whats up.
And by the way of course I know what a gsr is or guess you could just say integra in general. I have a good friend with a turboed GSR. Besides I have worked at two different dealerships in the past so I know about most cars that are on the market in the US.
And by the way of course I know what a gsr is or guess you could just say integra in general. I have a good friend with a turboed GSR. Besides I have worked at two different dealerships in the past so I know about most cars that are on the market in the US.
On paper, every year the tC has been produced is the same. If the 07 was indeed faster, why wouldn't scion market it? advertise that is it faster than previous years, pulling in more buyers?
You worked at a dealership? I once went to a dealership. They gave me wrong information.
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Re: 07 TC is Faster than the older TC's
Originally Posted by itzjere
Originally Posted by super_sci_tc
Okay bro my buddy isn't an idiot first of all. Second, I know he's right because I have had other friends who are familiar with the older TC's and they say that mine is quicker as well. You go drive an 07 and then tell me whats up.
And by the way of course I know what a gsr is or guess you could just say integra in general. I have a good friend with a turboed GSR. Besides I have worked at two different dealerships in the past so I know about most cars that are on the market in the US.
And by the way of course I know what a gsr is or guess you could just say integra in general. I have a good friend with a turboed GSR. Besides I have worked at two different dealerships in the past so I know about most cars that are on the market in the US.
On paper, every year the tC has been produced is the same. If the 07 was indeed faster, why wouldn't scion market it? advertise that is it faster than previous years, pulling in more buyers?
You worked at a dealership? I once went to a dealership. They gave me wrong information.
ouch! haha[/b]
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Re: 07 TC is Faster than the older TC's
Originally Posted by tC-Collin
ouch! haha[/b]
. no thanks, not buying the car from you. for those who don't know, the extra 40hp between the base and type-s is all in the motor. it's a different motor, not supercharger
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Re: 07 TC is Faster than the older TC's
Originally Posted by tC-Collin
Originally Posted by itzjere
Originally Posted by super_sci_tc
Okay bro my buddy isn't an idiot first of all. Second, I know he's right because I have had other friends who are familiar with the older TC's and they say that mine is quicker as well. You go drive an 07 and then tell me whats up.
And by the way of course I know what a gsr is or guess you could just say integra in general. I have a good friend with a turboed GSR. Besides I have worked at two different dealerships in the past so I know about most cars that are on the market in the US.
And by the way of course I know what a gsr is or guess you could just say integra in general. I have a good friend with a turboed GSR. Besides I have worked at two different dealerships in the past so I know about most cars that are on the market in the US.
On paper, every year the tC has been produced is the same. If the 07 was indeed faster, why wouldn't scion market it? advertise that is it faster than previous years, pulling in more buyers?
You worked at a dealership? I once went to a dealership. They gave me wrong information.
ouch! haha[/b]
Okay I see that the specs on those are the same. I've never checked out the older TC's except for looking at them. But I was told that the torque on the 07 seems better, but maybe the friends who told me so are on crack, since the specs are the same.
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Re: 07 TC is Faster than the older TC's
Originally Posted by itzjere
Originally Posted by tC-Collin
ouch! haha[/b]
. no thanks, not buying the car from you. for those who don't know, the extra 40hp between the base and type-s is all in the motor. it's a different motor, not superchargerYeah bro some of the sales guys are freaking plain dumb and shouldnt be in car sales for a living, I know what you mean. I usually dont care about how stupid they are as long as they give a good deal. I was not a sales guy though. I just parked the cars that came in for warranty work, and drove em thru the automatic wash, which was a pretty chill job.
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Oh, detail jobs. Yah, I have a friend who works for Mercedes and used to do that stuff. He now works in tech departments and drives customer cars to diagnoise problems, them tells the tech's what to fix. He's got quiet the hookup on new and used Mercedes too. I almost picked up a used (trade-in) 350z for hellllaaa cheap.
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teg.. tc who cares.. buy what you want.. it's your money... they are both great cars.. one's not more ghetto than the other.. i've seen some ghetto stuff for the tc, and i've seen ghetto stuff for the teg... just buy a supra... my buddy has one for sale 25k.. it's a 95 red twin turbo.. auto tho... =*(
the motor and turbos have all just been redone.. that thing will fly and kill a tc and teg.. hahaha.. jkjk.. no comparison..
the motor and turbos have all just been redone.. that thing will fly and kill a tc and teg.. hahaha.. jkjk.. no comparison..
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The motor on the 07 are different for previous tc's. There is a thread in here that explains it. I believe it was changed due to sae ratings. Bigger water passages and oil squirters too to cool the pistons. Glad I got an 07 after reading that thread.
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^^ True but they share the same hp and tq numbers... well 1 more pony and 1 less tq. So, the same. If it seems faster, then it's probably due to the loss of compression over the miles on an old tC
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Originally Posted by whorok305
The motor on the 07 are different for previous tc's. There is a thread in here that explains it. I believe it was changed due to sae ratings. Bigger water passages and oil squirters too to cool the pistons. Glad I got an 07 after reading that thread.
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Re: 07 TC is Faster than the older TC's
Originally Posted by itzjere
Originally Posted by tC-Collin
ouch! haha[/b]
. no thanks, not buying the car from you. for those who don't know, the extra 40hp between the base and type-s is all in the motor. it's a different motor, not supercharger
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Originally Posted by nyteshade
well I'm in a team of nothing but acuras and hondas my tC is stock (all i have is an axleback). Now before the axleback i was ran some of the guys in my team to see where i stood.
97 Black 2dr GSR - Beat him by 4 cars and pulling
99 Blue 4dr GSR - beat him by 2 cars but was creaping back up in 5th gear when he was in vtec
98 Blue SI - blew his transmission trying to keep up
91 Primer LS - haha....
Turbo 93 SOHC coupe - beat me 3 cars and pulling
07 SI - beating me by 3 cars at the end of 3rd (had my fat &%$ friend in the car with me would have liked to do it again to get better comparison)
the 97 GSR had flywheel and shortshifter. he claims the hole in his exhaust makes him slower so that's why i beat him
99 GSR had Clutch, Flywheel, Coilovers, Greddy Exhaust, vtec controller, short shifter, skunk2 intake manifold, DC sport header, and short ram intake (and our cars weigh the same i believe - someone will chime in and let us know)
98 Civic SI had Intake, Header, Exhaust, some stage3 clutch :? , Fidanza Flywheel and Coilovers.
91 LS had CAI, DC headers and coilovers
SI was stock tho he complemented me on my intake whistle, tho i don't have intake. gotta love the manifold on the tC.
I have ran other GSR's LS's and swaps. if need be i can post those up too.
97 Black 2dr GSR - Beat him by 4 cars and pulling
99 Blue 4dr GSR - beat him by 2 cars but was creaping back up in 5th gear when he was in vtec
98 Blue SI - blew his transmission trying to keep up
91 Primer LS - haha....
Turbo 93 SOHC coupe - beat me 3 cars and pulling
07 SI - beating me by 3 cars at the end of 3rd (had my fat &%$ friend in the car with me would have liked to do it again to get better comparison)
the 97 GSR had flywheel and shortshifter. he claims the hole in his exhaust makes him slower so that's why i beat him
99 GSR had Clutch, Flywheel, Coilovers, Greddy Exhaust, vtec controller, short shifter, skunk2 intake manifold, DC sport header, and short ram intake (and our cars weigh the same i believe - someone will chime in and let us know)
98 Civic SI had Intake, Header, Exhaust, some stage3 clutch :? , Fidanza Flywheel and Coilovers.
91 LS had CAI, DC headers and coilovers
SI was stock tho he complemented me on my intake whistle, tho i don't have intake. gotta love the manifold on the tC.
I have ran other GSR's LS's and swaps. if need be i can post those up too.
Sorry buddy but The GSR's cannot be taken down stock much less with all of those parts. I am not saying I'm a pro or whatever but I've raced quite a few honda's and GSR's are not easy and I usually end up losing by a fender. Now I am not saying I am a pro racer or anything but It doesn't take a genius to shift right on a freeway race or even a dead stop and I lose, I have intake and axle back. NO way in the world can you beat the GS-R ls and Si is defenite but GSR is not possible!!!
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Well I'm sorry YOU can't beat them, but there was no problem for me to beat them. Maybe it's because of the same reason I beat other stock tc's by 1 or 2 cars. Actually i raced a tC the other day on the way out to a night meet, an i beat him by a car and was still pulling. he said i had to have had a supercharger and i told him i didn't. so when we arrived he approached me trying to call BS in front of everyone there so i walked over popped my hood and let him search for anything that wasn't stock. needless to say he felt like a dumb*#$. ANYWAY Arizona huh? a lil too far to go just to show someone they can't drive....maybe we can find another way of showing you I'm not lieing. Do you have myspace? I'll give you the people's myspace and you can ask them.
and if you do want themand you ask them and they tell you yeah he beat me. you going to feel just like that jack@*# at the meet. O and mention the friday night on 234 where it turns 3 lanes wide. (me and the GSR's went at it), Wendesday night at around......7:00 at Old Dominion (SI broke his tranny), On the way back from Seeing the owner of 99 GSR's newborn (93 SOHC).
and if you do want themand you ask them and they tell you yeah he beat me. you going to feel just like that jack@*# at the meet. O and mention the friday night on 234 where it turns 3 lanes wide. (me and the GSR's went at it), Wendesday night at around......7:00 at Old Dominion (SI broke his tranny), On the way back from Seeing the owner of 99 GSR's newborn (93 SOHC).