lol @ this thread...

Imports > Domestics. I own both Japanese and German cars, and will never buy one American made.

 

Haha I don't know why but when I hear the people defending American cars, all I can hear in my head is "DEY TOOK AR JOBS!!"

 

yeah i have an si and tc si is quicker

 

I would go with the TC. Honda is a Honda.

 

[quote=cwayne]Sorry to say, the Si is much quicker than the TC...my friends gf has a tc...he has an si.he runs 14.9 all day, and in the tc 15.8. I have a WRX that when it was stock, i could hit 13.9 on a good day...i could get an entire second faster in the SI than the tc in the 1/4...the only way the tc would be faster than the si is with turbo or supercharger...4-5k? I haven't driven a turbo or supercharged one..The Si either way, would still own in suspension/handling.

Si isn't nearly as smooth a driver than the TC, so it's what you're looking for. TC IN MY OPINION HAS MORE POTENTIAL for bigger numbers...TCs are the ones i see getting built making ridiculous numbers(like ZPIs)...Civic SIs(can't do much with those, unless get a turbo)...a TC with the manual, PULLSSS. Even with a WRX, I still liked the way the TC pulled once it has an intake and exhaust.
As Si is closer in comparison to an RSX, and a TC is not keeping up with an RSX-Type S...not without some work. Scions were originally about the Style..but the TCs have potential for pretty big power, if ure going that route.

 

most Si owners will NEVER run a 14.9 stock trust me i looked intothe Si and the rsx-s hardcore before i bought my car.. most people even with the slightly faster RSX-S are only able to pull around a 15.2 on average with a good driver

i even test drove a 08 Si... and its a great car with alot of power up top. i liked it so much i even tried to buy one but the Honda sales people like to up the price to insain levels ... after i left a second honda dealer ship completely disgusted that i couldn't get the car i wanted for even msrp i desided to head over to a scion dealership. i drove the tC and the two cars are like night and day. where the Si has no power down low and feel sluggish the tC felt like it had boat loads in comparison. but when you get higher into the rev range this is where the Si's power starts to shine.. basically what this all came down to is that the tC is a much better daily driver car. think about it, in 90% of normal driving situations you need the power down low and thats the tC's strong point over the Si

don't get me wrong even though i think the tC is the better daily driver and 10x sexier looking, as it stands now i would still take an Si over a tC any day......
that is unless the tC came with the S/C and full TRD suspension setup for the same price or lower then the Si... which Toyota should have made a factory option in the first place ugg

 

I think tC biggest failing is that it cost a heck of a lot more to match SI spec OTD off the dealer lot. Put in trd S/C, trd coilover, trd LSD and you're looking at atleast $1k over SI's price at comparable specs.


I think toyota should bite the bullet, offer a Scion tC trd edition that comes with s/c, coilover (or atleast the new anti-roll bar), lsd standard at acompetitive price tag. We'd all win!

 

..... and a scion is just a scion.

 

get what you like, I don't race so having a slower car doesn't matter to me. I like the interior of the civic and tc, but i think the tc looks a lot better on the outside than the new civics.

but if you want speed i think we can all agree that the mazdaspeed 3 is the best bang for buck in this class =P

 

yes mazda speed 3 if you like cheap fit and finish i drove the new si and almost cried no tq at all fast aint fast unless it feels fast lol i drive a xb2 its got a good amount of power when i got into the si i found myself downshifting in the mountains when i dont have to in my xb2 could have ben the motor wasnt worked in and another draw back to the si let of the gas pedal and it revs up another 700 rpms so the motor doesnt go into a lean state for .5 of a second kinda feels like ____ they both have there perks each to his own

 

Id take the tC over the Si. I hate the look of the Si. Since I dont auto x my car or anything like that it handles just fine. With the supercharger its just as fast in a straight line and it has torque. Driving it like I stole it is fun but I dont want that to be the only way to go fast.

 

There are actually a good amount of BMWs that are American made.

Most of Toyota/Honda/Subaru are American made.

The Camry, Car of the Year, one of the most reliable high quality cars... are American made.

I'm sure you're aware of that

 

whocares 5050, why do you still post here? you just cant seem to let go? i feel sorry for your x girlfriends, if you had any

 

I dont have anything i need to let go off. i didnt say i didnt like the tC , but will say the SI is a much better car. You have the problem. Im trying to help out the OP.

 

my friend has a blower on his tc and he's about 3 tenths of a second behind my time...i have exhaust and intake on my si

 

my friend has a turbo and nitrous in his SI and he's about 3 car lengths behind me and my tC is all stock.

 

Something funny about people losing their jobs? You can't be serious.

 

 

According to Road & Track the Si is pretty much equal to the s/c tC in a drag race. That just comes down to driver in that race.

07 Civic Si sedan
0-60 - 6.8 sec
0-100 - 17.0 sec
1/4 mi - 15.1 sec @ 94.0 mph

08 Civic Mugen Si sedan
0-60 - 6.9 sec
0-100 - 17.1 sec
1/4 mi - 15.2 sec @ 93.4 mph

06 tC TRD S/C
0-60 - 6.9 sec
0-100 - 17.1 sec
1/4 mi - 15.1 sec @ 94.0 mph

 

I know what you mean i drove an 05 type-s before i bought my tc back in 04. Cant stand the lack of low end power. You need that to get you out of hole. The type-s did not feel ballZy at all. So i went with Tc. Coming from American muscle theres no lag whats so ever. Thats what i felt from the Tc "no lag". I wanted instant power and didnt get that from the Acura-210hp. Owning a T-TYPE REGAL which i used to drive everyday,the only thing close to what i felt had somewhat of torque was a Toyota which are known for torque in the drag-world. I just couldnt stand the fact that i needed to rev up so high on the type-s to get any power from it just not used to that. EVERYONE SHOULD REMIND THEMSELFS, ITS NOT HOW HIGH YOU CAN REV UP, ITS HOW QUICK YOU CAN GET THEM UP.