higher octane gas goes hand iin hand with *any* forced induction, not just the SC.

I've heard of a few people "tweak down" their C/I setups, and run lower octane, but I wuold *never* recommend that. You have to really know what you are doing, and in the long run, it's an awful high risk, just for cheaper gas.

If you want more information on how to do this sort of thing, ask oldman, I know he's done it on at least one car.

 

my plan... drive it for 5 years, pay it off, gg my car, turbo it then, when i get my tC, onlything will happen is tint, lights and intake

 

so when i asked if the s/c could be financed, and you said no, you meant as in not by itself?

but if you were still paying off the car loan for the tC you can tack on the price of the s/c?

thanks.

 

What do you mean 1994 Previa was the last Toyota with a factory supercharger?

The Tacoma and Solara offered S/C's in recent years.

Also, looking at the TRD price sheet, they have S/C available for Camry, Corolla, 4Runner, Land Cruiser, Matrix, Sequoia, Sienna, Solara, T100, Tacoma, Tundra, and a few Lexus vehicles. But no tC listed...of course the list is as of 3-10-05.

-Z

 

40hp out of 160hp is 25%

 

man you peeps is crazy!!!! when the SC comes out im changing the pully to a 25lb pully and smoke all yall!!!!!! hehehehe









i am joking. think about it. if the car does make 200crank. dont you think a company will come out with a 10lb pully and ecu piggy back or something.............just a thought.

 

The Previa was the last Toyota that left the factory with a supercharger on it and therefore is the last one that you could make a direct comparison of EPA fuel economy ratings. There are plenty of SC equipped Toyotas around, but they didn't leave the factory that way and therefore, there is no government data on the effects on fuel economy. I was just pointing out that the mere presence of a SC doesn't mean it automatically gets worse gas mileage.

 

I'll be saving my $3200 for 50% (or higher) down payment on a 1995 Camaro Z-28 as a second car.... T-tops, six-speed manual, 280hp, 325 lb-ft of torque. Mmmmmm....

 

A Camaro, Ugh! The t-tops will leak and the traction will be total ____ in bad weather. Why?

 

yea i was wondering how much it'll do to our stock gas milage

 

OK - Rumor Control

(My information is from an internal Toyota document, as well as a training session last year)

- $3200 MSRP (uninstalled)
- 5 hours est. installation time. Since we charge $50/hr in Scion Land here, that equates to $250 additional, and then you add the taxes, you have around $3750 total.
- HP after installation = 200+ hp (Now since that says "+" in there, it could be anything. They said that the Corolla XRS would do 0-60 in 'less than 8 seconds' and it hit 7.1. They also said that the tC would be 'less than $20K' and it starts at $16,515. So, Toyota being notoriously modest as usual, I would expect more than 200 hp without too much trouble.)

- We are required to buy an ECU reflash tool here in the service department, as the SC will not have a piggyback computer. This is the first time that Toyota has released our engine codes to an aftermarket manufacturer (in this case, Vortech) so that's cool.

- They expect to have the SC available for sale "by the end of August or early September, 2005."

- According to the new brochure, the SC will carry 5yr/60,000 miles of warranty(!). That is AWESOME. I'm sure that will depend on us installing it, but as long as the shop is competent and doesn't rape you, what price fame?

That's what I've got now. If anything else surfaces, I'll post it. Hope to see tons of folks at Riverbend in Chattanooga next week.

And the beautiful thing about the SC, if you don't want one, you don't have to buy one. HA

 

the gas mileage question here is what happened t me when i turboed my car.
stock i would get 240 on full tank city/highway, after just turbo kit 150(car was running super rich) but once the ecu got used to it i got 280. then after the standalone i got 320 something. i think the main reason my gas mileage went up was cause i dont have to rev it so high to get the passing power, i bairly needed to touch the gas and it would go. but after i hit the 300whp mark gas milage went back down to 220 on a full tank. (sorry if some of this doesnt make sence i been up for the pass 19 hours)

 

the car runs around a 12 AFR stock so a piggyback on a stock car could actually gain hp and mpg

 

Gas mileage will NOT be an issue.
The first month you have your SC installed, I bet u will get some SH*ty mileage,
but that's because u step on it too hard

Once the honeymoon's over, ur gas mileage should stay about the same.
Or say increase or drop by 1 mpg

So that's not something to worry.

 

It's already been done through Vortex.....
Remember, Toyota is buying this SC through Vortex and then putting TRD on it....
This isn't a TRD Supercharger, it's VORTEX. If you want to buy this and install yourself you can, but if you want warranty stick with getting your butt rammed, because that's what the dealer likes to do.

If you bought a Turbo, same situation as to installing yourself..... [/url]

 

Because it'll be a SECOND car. I won't be driving it in the snow anyway, although the traction control system offered by Chevy in the 4th generation Camaros is acutally quite good. Besides, for big power, RWD is the way to go. As far as t-tops leaking, that's a matter of proper maintenance. As long as they were cared for, they won't leak.

 

Iwould have sold you mine 2 years ago. I had the 95 z-28 w/60,000 miles on it, perfect condition.. AND... Overbored, lifters, cams, entire hooker 3in. dual exhaust system, msn ignition system, kevlar spark plug wire protectors b/c the headers would get so hot they'd glow... Intake, ported heads/throttle body... God, what a beautiful machine.



Alas, I ran out of money at the end of a 2 year run with her and couldn't afford the insurance anymore. State Farm got a hint somehow that it was modified, and sent a guy out to my house to check it, I did everything I could not to let him start it, but once he did, it was over.


On-topic- The TRD supercharger isn't worth it IMO. I bought the extended warranty because they promised me it would be ~3000$ installed and push the car up to 250hp. I guess in my excitment to get the car, I didn't really realize that numbers like that were unrealistic.

I'll end up getting a ZPI stage 1 someday after i see how other peoples tC are holding up under the boost.

 

A local Scion dealer in Durham said the supercharger would put the tC at around 275 hp. He is probably full of hooie though, considering he called it a turbo-booster before I asked him if he meant the supercharger.

Why do people feel the need to just make things up...

 

OliverThomas, that WAS a beautiful machine. I would've bought it in a second...

 

250 whp would be fun...


Assuming that TRD is modest by 15% (this is a rough average of the two examples given; 22% modesty for tC pricing and 12% for XRS times) than the s/c will push out approximately 230 hp.

What do we keep hearing? 250, 240, 210, 200. 240 whp and up and it might be worth it...