I use "buttdyno" And my product gains 17hp to the rear wheels. Is that enough proof? Want me to scan some dyno sheet pics for you? You really have time to talk trash in 3 seperate posts? too lazy to edit your first? Keep forgeting ____ to say? lol Man ge ta life. Go kick a ____ or something, suck a sack. whatever, i don't care.

My brackets and Damper seem to reduce the engine movement far more than the WR or ingalls. Yes I have had both, Ingalls had far less vibrations than WR but my Shock hase much more damping force. Peak loads as in what do you mean? Ive broken 2 sets setting 400+ psi then 100+ psi, and now i stick with a solid 40 front/60 back psi with redesigned brackets, one matching Ingalls lower bracket almost identically but with thicker steel. I fiddle with the pressures at the track, I have tested it, I'm done fiddling and it stays at 40/60 for me. now you trash talking my piece that you've never seen in person felt or seen is ridiculous. Thread hijack? Nah. Chill out bro and get some sex or something, seriously. Colorado..hahaha. suck my ****.

 

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Well atleast you admit you are too cheap to buy a kit and just decided to copy the engineered brackets from Ingalls. Thanks for the compliment funny how "your idea" works so well with them. Where could you have ever came up with such a good idea....?

 

Engineered? at best. Poorly engineered. The brackets are weak. They are weak because their damper is weak. Minimal damping, more lugging. Learn to shift better = more of an investment.

Who keeps editing my damn words, lol.

Boxman: have you ever heard of Ad Hominem? You're statements do not pertain to the valid argument. How about the Irrational Appeal to Authority? Oooh "Ingalls" , company, money "engineered". or Are you appealing to popularity? Sure Inglass is sort of popular..hmm, not so much. Or maybe you are just a victim of Genetic Fallacies. How old are you kid? No no, wait..I have it. You are appealing to ignorance. Where is your evidence? because I have mine right here. Are you a politician? All I see is red herring everywhere, some straw man fallacies and definately hasty generalization. Grow up man, I'm not hijacking, I'm not trying to put anyone down. I was simply introducing another option other than WR and Ingalls. Yes these brackets can be made, but you must provide you're own 6" eye to eye MTB shock. If anyone is interested PM me or DR.Isotope. So Boxman, now that you have scooped the scoop, stop crying about everything. Just stop. You're not funny, you're not stating valid points, and it seems like I'm arguing with a brick wall. You're just giving me points to flame you on. I'm done flaming on you, yes I've attacked you personally, as they say, "you started it." Grow up, good day.

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Wow going back and reading the thread, it seems as if BOXMAN is a sales rep for Ingalls. Hahaha, not likely. But he pushes soo strong for it.


anyway's on topic. How are your pieces, and has anyone had any troubles with the piece? How about some improved track times, or just lovin' the quality it brings to your daly drive?

 

I push products that work so people dont have to buy TRASH! I dont care one bit if you think you are better or smarter than me. All I know is the product you designed is a direct rip off of Ingalls ETD. Its fine but to come in claiming your product works without one single piece of DATA to prove it.

 

Following along with this argument and as a neutral bystander (not to get involved or anything), but Boxman seems to be making arguments about the parts that he knows about while Alas is simply attacking boxman without making any relevant points, just telling him to suck a ****, to stop crying, grow up, get sex, colorado sucks, etc. ENOUGH! Let's leave the name calling at the door and keep this relevant. Stop trying to make a point by saying "you're not making a valid point". To do so, this "argument" can actually be beneficial for in proving a point.

The claims that alas is putting out is that the ingalls brackets are weak. Any evidence to back that up? We obviously can't see his dampner, any evidence it ever works? Dynos would be nice since they are available so we can all see the gains rather than hearing about them.

Alas, thank you for introducing another option (as you said), now can you prove that it actually works? I mean, you could have put that in at the same time you put in a supercharger and sure, the dynos will be better....lol. Its hard to even trust a dyno b/c we don't know that what we are looking at is even what we are told that we are looking at!

Let's keep it clean fellas...this 'discussion' can really be beneficial for those who are interested!

 

Ingalls ended up replacing my the adjusting nut on my stiffy and they sent it back to me.

I put it back on the car and it's good as new.

 

ingall's didn't do anything for me. i kept in touch. talked to them on the phones. sent pictures. and they let me hang dry. no i didnt annoy them. 1 phone call. 2 emails and nothing...

 

Okay so it's time for polyurethane motormounts. Then you can try push for your ingalls damper. It's not a direct rip, it's just IMHO a replacement for a flawed product.

the end.

 

Thanks. We all heard it he said "the end" so no more BS in a thread that was being used for Ingalls questions. TTT for any Ingalls related questions.

 

Hey guys, i'm in the middle of doing the install for the stiffy, but I ran into 2 questions. I am following the ingalls instructions here:

http://www.ingallseng.com/Instructions/93027.pdf

Following those directions, does anybody have the torque specs for the M10 Hex nut (17mm) from step 1?

Also, from step 8, it says if dynamat is layed down nicely, you don't have to use the medium washers. Has anybody used or not used the washers when using the dynamat? I'm using dynamat and i'm not sure if it could only help to use the washers or if it could be a negative effect. (I suppose the purpose is to even out the surface...)

 

i get the feeling boxman works for ingalls, but frankly i don't care. everyone on SL jocks some vendor or another.

but this guy Alas....some of these statements are head scratching.

you are one bizarre antisemite..

 

 

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38 ft lbs

just noticed you are in norwalk. do you go to planet fitness? i usually see a couple of tcs in the lot.

 

awesome, you rock.

My fiancee goes to planet fitness. I'm over at the ymca. But I must tell ya, i see TONS of tCs in the area...it almost makes me feel like my car is less special...then again, more reason to mod!!!

 

So I just installed it, and I used 2 layers of dynamat. and my LORD is that loud. It sounds like i'm driving an old american muscle car!! Is that normal???? Anyway to dampen some of the sound? I have it set to 12.5mm...I'll lower it way down if I have to!

 

The main cause of the noise is the product breaking in and if your length isnt adjusted correctly. You need to have the heim joits holes lined up perfect with the bracket holes. The stiffy ISNT adjusted from Ingalls.

 

Yea, I initially had it at 12.5mm and now I lowered it to 15mm to see what difference i'd feel. Honestly, its minimal between those 2 numbers IMO. I do have the helm joints lined up as close to perfectly as I could do...I was out with tape measures, measuring caliper, etc.

The vibration doesn't bother me on either setting...its really minimal. Its just the noise is unbearable! Even with my radio up high I get the noise. Thats with 2 layers of dynamat. Once the product breaks in, you think the noise will diminish THAT much?

 

Your cars sounds like a tractor trailor now doesent it... lol