Cheap=Best Axle Back Exhaust..
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Originally Posted by DriverXa
If u wanna go cheap just buy an aftermarket muffler and a nice exhaust tip and have your local muffler shop just weld it on for you.
how do you reccomend jacking it up btw? i know not with the jack that came with the car...
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Originally Posted by JasonReynoldsXXX
http://ssuperstore.com/product_info.php/cPath/24_56/products_id/722
seriously i got this exhuast and i loved it i cut my res. so its super loud now but even before nice solid deep tone and ive had the greddy evo 2 on my box i wasnt feeling it compaired to this exhuast and i went back to it and sold my greddy becuase i think this one sounds nicer and i dont no if your lowered but im on coils and i couldnt get over anything with the greddy i scraped left and right but now with this exhuast the only thing i have to worry about is my sides hitting lol well hopes this help ive hade high end and low end and i sold the greddy after 3weeks
seriously i got this exhuast and i loved it i cut my res. so its super loud now but even before nice solid deep tone and ive had the greddy evo 2 on my box i wasnt feeling it compaired to this exhuast and i went back to it and sold my greddy becuase i think this one sounds nicer and i dont no if your lowered but im on coils and i couldnt get over anything with the greddy i scraped left and right but now with this exhuast the only thing i have to worry about is my sides hitting lol well hopes this help ive hade high end and low end and i sold the greddy after 3weeks
yeah dide i really like it like i said i sold my greddy evo 2 because i like this one more just run it with out the silencer and you will love it and if you want it really loud cut your resi
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figured id update everyone.
speed element doesnt have any tsudo exhaust in stock, and appearently they dont make them any more.
SO.
shopped around, and found a tsudo fireball for 10 bucks more. so woo! ill let you know if THEY ship it.
for the record, SE was really nice about it, explained it to me and gave me a FULL REFUND TWICE!
professionals!
speed element doesnt have any tsudo exhaust in stock, and appearently they dont make them any more.
SO.
shopped around, and found a tsudo fireball for 10 bucks more. so woo! ill let you know if THEY ship it.
for the record, SE was really nice about it, explained it to me and gave me a FULL REFUND TWICE!
professionals!
Do not feel bad, Ive done a lot of searching and have the money, but it seems subjective on performance gains.
Ultimately I used you tube clips and ads for the strup. It advertises more power, seems quieter than the dc sports.
Now if I can find a 4 2 1 header..........
Ultimately I used you tube clips and ads for the strup. It advertises more power, seems quieter than the dc sports.
Now if I can find a 4 2 1 header..........
Oh gawd, here we go again. Will see in a few days. I am just glad the mufflers give a throatie vs a 2 stroke dirt bike sound, one reason I never considered upgrading the exhaust.
I have searched and seems the 4 2 1 headers are tc only. All the xaxb are either mislabeled and either in the fine print says 41 or the photo shows a 41 header.
I have searched and seems the 4 2 1 headers are tc only. All the xaxb are either mislabeled and either in the fine print says 41 or the photo shows a 41 header.
Originally Posted by evosky
^^^ hmm ... from what i know, the strup is one of the loudest exhausts. DC is like in the middle.
421? look for OBX or weaponR (MMW).
421? look for OBX or weaponR (MMW).
no, weaponR/MMW, alphawerks, and OBX are 4-2-1 headers. they are short 4-2-1, but they are that design and not mislabeled. all others that i know of are 4-1.
and back to exhausts, i'm sure you'll be pretty happy with the exhaust you chose anyways!
and back to exhausts, i'm sure you'll be pretty happy with the exhaust you chose anyways!
Needless to say, after reading the exhaust thread, seems no one posts about removing the strup like they do the dc because of highway drone. Not to mention a post in that it feels like it gives some performance improvement.
Plus its the cheapest and does not look that meaty in relation to others. Just a pipe with a coffee can on the end of it.
Shorty headers? Do I dare ask in that case about going with polished, cereamic? I did notice one photo showed the two pairs being combined as they entered the collector, but all bragg about being race proven with more higher end gains vs low to mid. Can you help me pick one?
Can you post a link?
true 4 2 1, not 06 http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...4&idcategory=0
4 2 1??? Does not look like it.
http://autosportstyle.com/shop/scion...r-p-66032.html
they claim 4 2 1, but scion is 4 1
http://www.statracing.com/buy/megan-header.asp
Shorty 4 2 1??? They pipes seemed paired off before the collector http://www.scispeed.com/stainless-st...-scion-xa.html
another 4 2 1 shorty?? http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/h10591bs.html
421 or 41 can not tell??? Looks like a bait n switch http://www.street-power.com/dcspscxaxbce.html
Plus its the cheapest and does not look that meaty in relation to others. Just a pipe with a coffee can on the end of it.

Shorty headers? Do I dare ask in that case about going with polished, cereamic? I did notice one photo showed the two pairs being combined as they entered the collector, but all bragg about being race proven with more higher end gains vs low to mid. Can you help me pick one?
Can you post a link?
true 4 2 1, not 06 http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...4&idcategory=0
4 2 1??? Does not look like it.
http://autosportstyle.com/shop/scion...r-p-66032.html
they claim 4 2 1, but scion is 4 1
http://www.statracing.com/buy/megan-header.asp
Shorty 4 2 1??? They pipes seemed paired off before the collector http://www.scispeed.com/stainless-st...-scion-xa.html
another 4 2 1 shorty?? http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/h10591bs.html
421 or 41 can not tell??? Looks like a bait n switch http://www.street-power.com/dcspscxaxbce.html
going polished or ceramic does not make much of a difference, though ceramic (as the DC is) does tend to keep heat temps in that area of the engine bay down. it's all personal preference at that point.
yes, if you look at the ones you pointed out, the weapon-R and the OBX are 4-2-1 design. let me emphasize again that our headers are very short, and thus the difference in performance or whatever between 4-1 and 4-2-1 designs are pretty much moot IMO. remember, the point of the header design is to provide tuned exhaust flow, and with such short headers, the two are pretty much the same when it comes down to it. now, if you're looking for bragging rights or show points, it's up to you.
in short, 4-1 provides more top end power, while the 4-2-1 will provide more low end power.
i personally went with strup.
yes, if you look at the ones you pointed out, the weapon-R and the OBX are 4-2-1 design. let me emphasize again that our headers are very short, and thus the difference in performance or whatever between 4-1 and 4-2-1 designs are pretty much moot IMO. remember, the point of the header design is to provide tuned exhaust flow, and with such short headers, the two are pretty much the same when it comes down to it. now, if you're looking for bragging rights or show points, it's up to you.
in short, 4-1 provides more top end power, while the 4-2-1 will provide more low end power.
i personally went with strup.
Great to hear they ofer a 4 2 1, I want my header to match my exhaust. Do you have a link? Thanks
strup link to you tube xb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEeszi3dH48
Originally Posted by evosky
i personally went with strup.


