I can haz maps?

 

Pat??? Were you drunk posting again?!? What was that?

 

Well, I don't get it. I adjusted the tune on it Monday night and I got it to idle great and not bog down through the entire powerband. I come back to it last night and it won't even crank. I thought maybe it was running more efficiently the night before because it had warmed up by the time I got it set correctly, but who knows.

Does anyone know if there is a manual online or a tutorial on the emanage that shows what the af map and injector map settings really do and how they should be set or how to troubleshoot a non-productive tune? I'd really like to learn about this.

In the meantime here's some shots from Monday night and last night...

Like I said in the previous post, we took the turbo out and reclocked it:





Then we figured out why it wasn't working! It had some fleshy looking thing stuck in the compressor side... sort of resembled a... hmm...





But Josh cleaned it out...



And then we reinstalled it all on the car. This was putting the oil pan back on...



I know most people don't care, but I figure each shot might have the angle of how something goes together somebody is searching for. So, there it is.

Last night I finished wiring in all of my gauges except my A/F (yeah.. the one I really need..)



(From left to right) On the dash is A/F, Oil Pressure, Boost and on the column is Fuel Pressure and Water Temp.

And here's a quick vid of the startup sequence:



I did notice during my attempts to get the car running after the gauges were in place that I'm showing a vacuum of about 20 on my boost gauge and when I throttle up it gets to about 8-10 and dies.

As always, suggestions welcome...

 

smi, pat is asking for your maps. i know what you need................a match.

 

Yeah... it's kinda hard to tell people not to smoke in my car when it smokes all by itself.

 

So, it runs then it doesn't then it does etc. I actually got to drive it around the block earlier this week. Went back the next day and it won't even crank.

I made a new post for just this issue hoping to attract more attention to the problem than just burying it way down in here. You can find it at https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...452729#3452729 Other than that, nothing is going on with the car right now.

 

Another quick update. I pulled the MAF off and it's clean. I pulled the U/J bend pipe off the charge side of the intercooler and removed the emanage. It cranked and ran great... well stable. The fuel gauge was jumping from 40 to 55 at idle sporadically, but no CEL. The bigger injectors are still in.

I'm setting up an appt. to have the exhaust welds fixed, the A/F bung redone, and the custom snorkel made.

When I get it back home I'm draining the oil again and adding a .035 restrictor to the inlet on the turbo. I'm also pulling the return line and shortening it. I'll install the catch can and put the U/J bend on, fill it with oil, put the emanage back on with a map of all zeros and start from scratch tuning it now that I'll have the A/F gauge working. I will probably look into getting a knock sensor.

I'll let you all know how it goes.

 

i hate turbo's....

 

Having fun yet Jason?

 

I think if it just bolted on and I drove off I wouldn't appreciate it as much.

It's that whole "love/hate" thing.

 

I got an idea.

Call Turbochargers.com and ask for Kenny Strickler
Make him do troubleshooting. That's what I used to do. I was like Hey Kenny. You built it, you fix it.

 

so that's where he works now? I tried hitting him up on aim a few weeks ago with no reply. I might try that but I think i'm almost there. I should have another update next week.

 

i think if it just bolted on and he drove off I wouldn't appreciate it either. he'd be driving by my house at 5 grand all night long laughing.
and that whole love/hate thing would be that I love the fact that he got it done, but hate the fact that he got it done.

he has to be getting close becaue the car hurt me the other night. i only get hurt when the project i'm working on is close to being done. ie- my chin vs. torque wrench on the last of the u-bolts that were needing torqued on my jeep lift.

torque wrench-1, chin-0.

so he has to be close.

 

lol nice story, i seem to get hurt no matter how far through the project i am lmao. do waht another guy just did, and buy the echo ecu for 60 on ebay, its a 16bit instead of a 64bit so it doesnt learn, and F&%k with your tune, it just takes it i guess. lol

 

whoa! seriously!? you can just swap it with the echo ecu and everything still works? seems like you would lose vsc, trac, abs, etc. and if so then just go motec. but if not i'll def. look into it.

 

was guna post link but i see you found it lol. he says that he doesnt have track or vsc, but who needs tose lol, i hate that stuff. i know when to put on the brakes, i dont need my car to halp lol, it almost made me crash once becuase i was goin up to my dads on a curvy mountain and it was rainin, i was pushin it and it slid a lil, it was fun until my car "multi tapped" the brakes for me, it shuddered, went a lil sideways facing the wall, and scared me lol, i corrected, but i didnt like it. that was awhile ago, and ive turned that crap off ever since. lol sorry back on topic, more pics lol, i wana hear some turbo spoooool. is it still not running right? if its still not spooling you prob got a problem with that BOv or your WG. dude i wish i lived near you id love to see this thing lol

 

 

No need to worry.... yet.

I've been really busy trying to finish some things at work and get ready for the baby. The docs say we should be having her within two weeks now.

Here's an update of the things you care about though:

I never made it to the exhaust shop. The next time I started her up oil was coming out both ends again like nobody's business. So, I shortened and rerouted the oil return line from the turbo to the pump. (no pics)

I also added a ,060 oil restrictor to the filter sandwich adapter side of the oil feed line. (no pics) Before you start commenting on this arrangement, read on...

The restrictor I ordered didn't fit the turbo side of my setup. I hated to waste the money so I slapped it on the front end. That will keep more pressure in the block than in the oil feed line. Now, it will build up substantially more pressure than I need in the feed line, so I also ordered a .035 restrictor for the turbo side. That's all this thing will need. So, yes. I'm running two. One on each end, the turbo side being smaller. (I know... the turbo side is all I really need and should take the front one off. If I'm not getting enough to the turbo or there are any problems I will, but for starters I'm using both. )

The problem that came up was the restrictor for the turbo side fit where the banjo bolt used to be, but was a -3an on the other side. My feed line is -4an and was NOT going to bend enough to attach anyway being that close to the body of the car.

The .035 restrictor:


So, off to ordering I go again. I get a -3an 90 elbow from Earls and a -3 to -4 reducer.



Nice and snug



(Here's a pic of the return just because I was under there)



(And both



After setting this up, I went to swap out a part. Time to install the new Tial 38mm Wastegate where the Turbo Concepts GT was.



When I pulled the GT off, this is what greeted me:





I went ahead and installed the new one:





(Side note: obviously I did this before the oil line based on the pics... nothing was wrong to make me undo them again. )

So... it's running rich. But, is it just because I'm running larger injectors on stock plugs, ecu, n/a etc.? Did it happen when I wasn't in boost all those first times we fired it up? Does it just do this anyway? .... So I looked inside. And found....

nothing.



Clean as it came. So, either
A: I never hit enough boost because of the issues to open this thing.
B: My vacuum wasn't working correctly.
C: When it did open it just blew everything out and didn't leave any residue.

I ruled C out.

It's probably A, but just in case I made a decision to reroute my vacuum lines a more professional way. I got a vacuum manifold block to run off the brake booster.



I will be installing this and in the process cleaning up the lines I cut to run vacuum the first time as I install the catch-can. I'm taking a week off for paternity leave when Kaylee arrives so I'm going to spend some of the time in the garage. I'll update again when I can.

 

Huh what? I wasn't sleeping I swear. I want to see what you find on the oil issue. I know how to fix the vac, the boost and what not. The Oil was my problem. J pm me if you need my number.

 

gotta say I hope persistence paid off