While checking my local Scion dealership web site, find the following?

Vinyl Protection = $325.00
Fabric Protection = $325.00
Paint Protection = $325.00
(While other local dealership web site listed Vinyl, Fabric and Paint protection for only $499.00)
Under Coating = $499.00

Sound like snake oil to me...

 

We have Vinyl? Where, I can't spot a place in the xB that is made with Vinyl

Vinyl: What vinyl
Fabric: Um, they'll probably will just spray those $3-5 cans of fabric protectant and charge you for that amount
Paint: Claybar from some auto parts store ($5 or whatever the price). Some touch up paing from WALMART, and not the TOyota touchup paint. Your car will have odd looking color spots.
Undercoating: Ahhhh yeah, AKA Rust Protection. What are they going to do? Hmmm, they'll put the car in the shop. Let is sit there for an hour. Fill out some paperwork, give you the paperwork and say "Phew, good thing you bought that plan," and trying to assure you, they did something.

Seriously those things are a waste of money, along with Rust Protection. It's one of those gimmicks. In the words of King Aurthor, King of the Britons when the ferrocious rabbit was making a killing: "RUN AWAY!, RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY"

WHo is this dealer BTW? I know some peeps up in NYC and I dont want them to be haggled/ RAPED by that dealership...IMHO. :twisted:

 

the fabric protection is basically high powered scotchguard ... the best way to explain the paint protection is a really think teflon wax... doesn't need to be redone for 5yrs .. and with protect the paint from things like pine pitch, discoloration, etc ... if you do this to your car, do not wax it because it will strip off the coating and yu've just wasted your money. On the plus side .. you get a kit of cleaning supplies for the car that will not negate the effects of the different products and additional teflon wax incase a body panel needs to get repainted you can apply the stuff yourself afterwards...

 

http://www.bayridgescion.com/framese...&DEALERID=2870
Bottom of page
BayRidge Toyota,, aka bklyn shark

http://www.star-scion.com/f_finance-pricing.html#new
Bottom of page also
Bayside Toyota,,, aka the other shark

 

Thanks for the info. Those two dealers tried say they were/are the biggest scion dealer with the MOST allotment of Scions in the entire US/or east coast using Scionlife's forum. A few got into a sparring fight with them. Just buy with caution from them, IMO. Don't be pressured on buying that "protection" type fees. Watch the documentation, they (any shady dealer for that matter) may add that amount without you noticing it.

Oh yeah, those Credit disability/lifeInsurance is a joke. Your better off making sure you pay your bills on time. As well as that Guarenteed AUto Protection.

 

I definately have to disagree with you on the GAP insurance. If someone was to finance 100% of the car +tax& tags, as soon as they drive off the lot then the car is worth less than they paid for it. If they were to get in an accident, the insurance company would only give them what the car is worth. Wouldnt you want to pay 500 or so now so you dont have to potentially pay 2000 to 5000 if you get in an accident. It may not be for you, but dont mislead people into thinking there getting ripped off!!

 

Thank you for the honest reply. Thank everyone for their reply
Vinyl Protection = Still unknown.. (no one seen to find any vinyl in a Scion yet)
Fabric Protection = Similar to Scotchguard
Paint Protection = Similar to Teflon Wax (Will last 5 yr, but as long as you never wax it again)
Undercoating = Similar to Prixie dust

So... Would "you" pay the extra for any of the above? (Totaling $1400.00)
If so, i know a good friend who have a bridge for sale..

One time, My father inlaw was trying to buy the cheapest Echo, so he went to Bklyn Shark, everything was agree upon, and then on the day he pick up his Echo from Bayridge Toyota, They install a 6 disk changer and "Force" him to buy it... I remember him coming home upsad at buying a $700.00 CD player, he doesn't even listen to radio... let alone CD.

 

We have a few local dealerships in my area that "offer" these items. Our dealership principal will not under any circumstance allow these fluff charges passed on to his customers. I worked at another dealership that offered this junk (enviromental protection pkg). :shock: Do not pay a dime for this!!!! They did not even apply anything to the cars they charged for other than spray in the car with some aresol to make the car smell and gave the car a decent wash job.

As far as Undercoating.....I thought this was banned by the B.B.B. :x when they found out in an investigation out of one hundred or so cars charged for this 2 had been done. ***NOTICE*** Toyota zinc treats all it's panels of it's cars and adds another process that when scratched will actually protect itself by turning white on painted surfaces until the scratch or scar can be fixed (but for the life of me can't remember the process name)And also aply their own form of underbody panel protection. Undercoating the vehicle would also fill the weep holes which allow water in the body panels to drain ONLY PROMOTING THE VERY RUST THIS PROCESS IS SUPOSED TO PREVENT!!!

Sorry about the rant...I have just dealt with too many other dealership's customers who have been in terrible negative equity situations by charges such as these and others. :cry:

 

none of those things are worth it. just watch what you have in your car and if spill something clean it up. for the best paint protection, just wax your car. it will do the best for you. i doubt you will need the under coat. these are just things ways the dealer can try and squeeze out extra money.

 

I wish i had gap insurance. i bought a 95 honda accord and only paid 1,500 down. and then 6mos later it was stolen and stripped. needless to say I was left owing about 2.5k


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the gap insurance is the best damn insurance I have ever heard of. DON'T BUY A NEW CAR WITHOUT IT. I REPEAT, DON'T BUY A NEW CAR WITHOUT IT. It cost only $500.00, maybe less maybe more but if you total your car, or if the car gets stolen, you just saved yourself a whole lot of money. once you deal with the lost of your vehicle (insurance etc.) you have no debt left over on the car. It's that simple.

 

lol. true and nicely put. :D

 

Excelite II is what protects the body panels in case of a deep scratch.

IMO, i agree with y'all. GAP is good if you are not putting money down or trading in with equity. f all the paint/interior/vinyl(WTF it isn't 1970) protections, unless you like to see dealers make more $$$ than they deserve, as they are PROFIT CENTERS for dealers. get your ride with your accessories and RIDE ON.

 

An alternative to GAP insurance is loan/lease payoff protection from your auto insurance....much cheaper for me at least...less than $2 a month

 

Ask your insurance co. , loan/lease payoff protection from your insurance company is in the event of you getting hurt where you can't work or in the event of your death. Not the death of your car.

 

i have progressive and this is their coverage

Loan/Lease Payoff Protection
This coverage protects you if your vehicle is a total loss and the amount owed by you on a loan or lease exceeds the amount we also pay under Comprehensive Coverage or Collision Coverage. This coverage pays the amount owed on the vehicle up to 25% over the actual cash value (except past due amounts and other purchased coverage, i.e. credit life, accidental life, warranty/repair.) This coverage has no deductible. This coverage is typically sold to insureds who have a new car with a new car loan, or a newly leased vehicle

 

rust protection can be very real.

they spray a thick goey black coating over the button of the car.

and its really really annoying if you ever want to modify stuff sometimes. have to scrape the goo off.

better just to keep your car clean if you live in areas where you get snow and salt covered roads

 

Yes, GAP insurance is very smart to have. I've had friends burned 'cause they didn't have it.

As far as the those "credit card payment/disability/unemployment/fraudulent use programs"--SCAM.
I have worked in the credit card field for the past 5 years and it's just a way for the credit card companies to make even more $$.

x "They say that if you are unemployed/disabled they'll pause the payment requirements for a few months" You can get them to do that at no charge by simply asking and creating a payment schedule with them. Not to mention, the interest accrues if you do use use the program.

x "They say that if your card is used in a fraudulent manner they'll cover the charge." It is federal law that you are not responsible for any charges made which you did not authorize. The most you can EVER be charged is $50, but even that is crap. With or without the service you are not responsible!

x "They say that in the event you die your balance will be paid in full and your relatives will not be responsible." It is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to be held responsible for a debt another person incurred. When you die, your account will be closed and the issuer will "write-off" your balance. If it's a shared account, the other members can be held liable however.

Now go tell your grandmas to go on a shopping spree for you before they kick the bucket and don't buy into those programs.