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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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I dont understand why they let you have a kit before all the other paying customers, that have been paid up for months...
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DouBLeJ16
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well I guess people are just getting what they deserve.
Starting out page 6 with this, so everyone can see what your opinion is on the subject of people losing money and getting screwed over by a company.
I guess you took my comment wrong... I was replying to the guy that was saying its ok hes still backign up zpi... I think its bs.. zpi has been doing this for awhile theres at least 10+ threads about this.
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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I second that, You were allowed out of the shop sorta on a credit basis which is great they did that for you, but why not ship out to someone that has PAID in full and not received..? That is some crazy stuff right there. Just hearing what they did alone says yeah! Good company, cannot beleive they would trust so much, then other people are not getting what they paid for at all..? That is just.. wow
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0
I dont understand why they let you have a kit before all the other paying customers, that have been paid up for months...

I didn't have a kit that was shipped, I had to pay for it before hand to have it built. It's not a shipped kit like that.
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by g0t_rice
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ESk... nah sciondad had it... and he feel off the earth... ive heard bad things.
Sorry but you are misinformed. Sciondad had the Turboeast ESK which failed due to Turboeasts lack of communication with Sciondad and Kenny so Kenny ditched the efforts to work with them and has moved on to concoct his own using the emanage ultimate which is the one i have and not the one sciondad was using. Sorry to correct you, but i thought you shoudl have the right information. You can find Sciondads post regarding his Turboeast ESK experience if you do a search. I will be the first to have a working ESK (that i know of).
ahh ok you never said which esk you just said esk...
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Garage1217
I second that, You were allowed out of the shop sorta on a credit basis which is great they did that for you, but why not ship out to someone that has PAID in full and not received..? That is some crazy stuff right there. Just hearing what they did alone says yeah! Good company, cannot beleive they would trust so much, then other people are not getting what they paid for at all..? That is just.. wow

Like I said to zer0, I had to have ours built from the ground up, out of material around the shop. Not a kit that was waiting for production or anything. I believe some of our parts like the manifold was a "used" part. They have used material around the shop, which came about the creation of ours.

Other kits I believe get Mass produced, which comes about in a different fashion, then someone driving to the shop, and they weld and make pipes for it with the materials on hand.
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Garage1217
I second that, You were allowed out of the shop sorta on a credit basis which is great they did that for you, but why not ship out to someone that has PAID in full and not received..? That is some crazy stuff right there. Just hearing what they did alone says yeah! Good company, cannot beleive they would trust so much, then other people are not getting what they paid for at all..? That is just.. wow

Like I said to zer0, I had to have ours built from the ground up, out of material around the shop. Not a kit that was waiting for production or anything. I believe some of our parts like the manifold was a "used" part. They have used material around the shop, which came about the creation of ours.

Other kits I believe get Mass produced, which comes about in a different fashion, then someone driving to the shop, and they weld and make pipes for it with the materials on hand.
ISmokeGuys is your wife right...

I mean you have to see where zero is coming from... I see your point. But I think our point is the kit they made for you had alot of the parts the real kits have in them. And then they did time for you to do your car when they should be getting the kits made and shipped.

From what I can tell they are still back ordered a good 2+months if not alot more.
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by -Keith-
From what I can tell they are still back ordered a good 2+months if not alot more.
According to ZPI the TC kits are in stock, minus a 1 week lead time for putting a kit together and packaging/etc... This was as of last friday.
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Not quite his wife yet, fiance. What does that have to do with anything? lol
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by -Keith-
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Garage1217
I second that, You were allowed out of the shop sorta on a credit basis which is great they did that for you, but why not ship out to someone that has PAID in full and not received..? That is some crazy stuff right there. Just hearing what they did alone says yeah! Good company, cannot beleive they would trust so much, then other people are not getting what they paid for at all..? That is just.. wow

Like I said to zer0, I had to have ours built from the ground up, out of material around the shop. Not a kit that was waiting for production or anything. I believe some of our parts like the manifold was a "used" part. They have used material around the shop, which came about the creation of ours.

Other kits I believe get Mass produced, which comes about in a different fashion, then someone driving to the shop, and they weld and make pipes for it with the materials on hand.
ISmokeGuys is your wife right...

I mean you have to see where zero is coming from... I see your point. But I think our point is the kit they made for you had alot of the parts the real kits have in them. And then they did time for you to do your car when they should be getting the kits made and shipped.

From what I can tell they are still back ordered a good 2+months if not alot more.

Soon to be wife yeah...

But honestly, Scions are not their only clients. They have Mitsu's, Honda's, and other misc. vehicles that they work on for the locals, and anyone that drives the distance to their shop. So, with that said, are they to turn down business/cash just for the sake of trying to get kits to one particular customer base. Yes it's a LARGE priority/Cash Cow, but at the same time, you can not put all of your man power/resources into just the Cash Cow and suffer all of your other buisness. Economics 101. If they were to not make sales and only focus on building and shipping, how do you pay for building and shipping.....through sales right? So, therefore, time also must be allotted for other task as those other task intertwine with the rest of the aspects of running a business.

You can tell I graduated from a business driven College...LOL
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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Regaurdless, ZPI should have scrap'd up some kits out of their shop to get those paying customers their kit. If they took time for you, they could do it for the handfull that are complaining and wanting their kits.
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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So are you saying for the price that you pay for a brand new kit, you would settle on scraps and used parts sitting around the shop? Do you realize how many man hours it would take to hand weld every single kit that needed to be produced.

We've already agreed that the money should have been paid now get off their backs!
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ISmokeGuys
Not quite his wife yet, fiance. What does that have to do with anything? lol
Nothing I have talked to him before.. we in the same club..

Was just hearing his story and yours figured they were one the same...
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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Oh ok, didn't know if I needed to raise my guard some more or what. lol
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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AND here comes the ZPI crusader!!!

What did i say earlier in the thread? Everytime there is a negative thread, the ZPI supporter shall rise up to defend. Why do you supporters refuse to accept the fact that ZPI had and will screw others.



We've already agreed that the money should have been paid now get off their backs!

get off their backs? has the money been refund?
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ISmokeGuys
So are you saying for the price that you pay for a brand new kit, you would settle on scraps and used parts sitting around the shop? Do you realize how many man hours it would take to hand weld every single kit that needed to be produced.

We've already agreed that the money should have been paid now get off their backs!
You do know they subbed out alot of the welding right...


My point wasnt to just stop all work on other cars... I know they work on other cars ive read other site complaints to that I am on.

But what im saying is this... You ordered a kit (kind of) you drove down there to get the kit installed. They fabed you up a kit. Well why havent they been fabing kits up for those that havent shipped yet... didnt take them long for yours.

Im in this field. I sell parts as a side job. My main job is I work in a shipyard... I have learned alot about welding and I know alot more. Manifolds take time if you cant weld... But if your a good welder you can get a easy 8 plus done a day in 8 hours. esspecially a log manifold
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KJIN
AND here comes the ZPI crusader!!!

What did i say earlier in the thread? Everytime there is a negative thread, the ZPI supporter shall rise up to defend. Why do you supporters refuse to accept the fact that ZPI had and will screw others.



We've already agreed that the money should have been paid now get off their backs!

get off their backs? has the money been refund?

Did I ONCE say they were in the right? NO, I said they were wrong and should have paid him the money! READ!

Yea, I am a supporter of ZPI and HUGE one at that. What do I have against them? Nothing they've done nothing but good for us.

As far as my comment about get off their backs, I'm saying people need to quit bashing them when they obviously have no idea first hand what their talking about.
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Like stated earlier... if you didnt drive to zpi to get a kit or you havent defeneded them through and through... you wont get a kit on time.

I think thats a statment that somone said that is more then just words I think its true.

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