Sooooooooooo low

 

Sorry Stu...gotta do it.

 

Intellegence.. this is a big one. I am not saying that I know it all about intellegence.. but.. although our intellegence is good.. it always has room for improvement. The other thing with intellegence.. when it comes to gorilla warfare, terrorism, or any random attack.. your intellegence is not always going to pick up the neccessary info you need to prevent.. you can only hope somehow, someone, somewhere slips up or you catch something abnormal to make an educated guess that something isn't right...

Intellegence is only good if correct and acted on accordingly. Not all intellegence is good, not all intellegence will help. The more intellegence you have, the better chance you have of making the right decision. Our country is ran by other men and women just like ourselves.. human error is bound to happen.

Our countries problem is that our agencies have not yet been able to establish a solid connection between them. Communication errors are mainly what hinder us from getting the proper intellegence to the proper people in time in order to take precautionary measures to safely diffuse a problem. Again.. human error, learning from mistakes and just flat out guessing wrong will only make you better..

IMO.. I think the security now is more tighter and on their feet more than they were pre 9/11.


Everyone can agree on one thing (aside from we all drive Scions).. It is very sh!tty that human lives have to be lost in order for change to come about. America is a bunch of spoiled and ignorant people. Look at our past.. look what this country is founded on.. look at what other countries are founded on.. our era in time will lay foundation for our future.. now wether or not that holds peace and freedom.. only time will tell. Also remember.. every single solitary great empire has fallen.. eventually.. its historic, its inevitable... the US of A.. will crumble.. maybe not in any one of our life times.. or great x10 grand childrens life times.. but.. it will happen. For now.. hold on, keep your eyes down range.. and keep your foot on the gas.. life a b!tch and she can have her way with you when she feels the need.

Gotti has spoken...

again.

 

matt you're right Bush had nothing to do with the planning, he's to stupid for that. He's just a puppet any way. His admin. is just a bunch of liers plan and simple. The info was on his desk but they didn't care, they needed this war aganinst terror so they can make $$$$ thats it. You republicans from Penn. don't no ____ matt you are 39 from penn. and Probably never left your state before lol..........


Stu nice words, you got it!!

 

Stu,

We have been on opposite sides of some issues, but at least you logically argue your position (in contrast to many others). Keep it up.

Joe

P.S. I've been lurking on the Gotti Saga thread and I hope everything works out for you. I know where you are at, I owned a first year production Fiero once.

 

outside of pure enterainment value, their is always some conspiracy theory's floating around after something of national tradgedy. what annoys me is the grainyness and the "mtv" style it was done, using the hip hop soundtrack makes it loose crediablity, i also think irregardless of who did this, there is nothing you or I can do to change what happened, but it got me thinking ..........but it was more entertainment then anything for me......

 

Bush had everything to do with the planning.. that is where you are incorrect my friend. The President has people who basically oversee different proccesses and different departments.. only because he cant do it all himself. In the end, every single aspect of any decision is brought before the President. The President has advisors that tell him what is politically correct and what could be better or worse for you and I.

I think you should do a little bit of looking around. This war has actually produced more debt for this country than profit. There are several ways of looking at this administrations actions and drawing different conclusions as to why we took action. As I stated before.. Oil has a bunch to do with politics in the world today.. simply because almost everything is run off of it.. and its a great economic barganing tool. I guess you can compare it to whoever has the most checkers at the end of the game wins. Everyone knows that the Middle East is the core terrorist location. A great deal of countries in the Middle East envy and hate americans. IMO.. Bush and crew basically acted on feelings and greed more than intellegence and logic. Going to war in Afghan and Iraq was going to happen eventually.. if not now.. maybe 5 years or 20 years from now. As you sit here and read this.. somewhere overseas right now.. soldiers.. soldiers like I was.. soldiers like my buddies from the 3rd Infantry Division are over there protecting our freedom. To say that Bush didn't care.. regardless if you were talking about whatever crossed his desk is obserd and ignorant. Bush did act in a manner that I dont approve of and he did rush into things that he should not have done... but.. bottom line ladies and gents.. its done... the damage has been done and there is no going back on what has been done. There are soldiers over there right now dying because of all the crap that has happend. IMO.. pulling out would be smart.. but at the same time.. some soldiers feel as though.. pulling out would basically make all the people who died.. soldiers that died on vein. Bush has the right idea of spreading democracy to the Middle East.. but he did not have the proper planning.. and now we are losing more lives than ever.

Keep it coming ladies and gents... I love debating..

 

Oh goodie...a personal attack. I must have struck a nerve. Let's see, I was born in Wyoming, I've lived in IL, GA, and SC prior to PA. I've also done a good bit of traveling. But hey, I'm sure you're right.
Oh, BTW...learn how to spell.

 

Thanks Joenn.. I agree.. I see a bunch of non thought out reasoning.. its more than meets the eye.. just everyone doesn't quite see as much as others.. I have seen quite a bit and have my opinions.. just like er'body else.

Hell.. I sure hope I get my car back soon... I got some ice to go mess around in I guess this whole thing with my car is pretty much over with.. unless I can come up with some solid case for fight it.. I will just take it.. gotta relax though.. so it doesn't hurt as much

 

Ignorance.. Scrap.. I have seen many positive and educated dicussions with Matt being in all of them. You should not sterotype someone because of their state they live in and their age, and how they voice their opinions.. personal attacks usually stem from someone that is uneducated and are at their last grips with fighting a battle that they shouldn't have opened their mouth in..

Its a debate.. not a personal thrashing!

 

I think I struck a nerve. LOL!! Sorry my spelling is bad but I am busy at work right now.

How do you spell HICK?

Stu it was for profit. The middle class and poor pay for wars, with taxes and there childrens lifes. While the defense industry make tons of profits.

 

Yes.. we pay taxes. But.. in the end... we expend natural resources, money, time, people, etc. If you take a look at the debt that has increased since the start of things.. thats all it has done.. increased. Brother... that is how the economy works.. sorry to slap some reality on you. We all pay to have freedom.. rebel if you want.. but.. you are serverly out numbered my friend.

 

What? No way.....a liberal with a job?! :D
Just pickin'. Believe me, I'm the last person who should criticize anyone's spelling.

 

Just because it is a biased link doesn't mean that it's information is wrong. It's not opinions they list, but scientific facts, that you can read up on check out. And they do check out.

 

I find it sickening that all these people think 9/11 never really happened, and that the planes were empty

All those people die, and you all live in your fantasy land where they didn't really die. Hate on Bush all you want. . . hate on the war, hate Republicans. . . I don't care. But stick to the issues. . . dreaming up a scheme that 9/11 was cooked up by the government, and that nobody died is such an unfathomable thought, I honestly feel sadenned by humanity.

You people criticize people for being stupid. . . for voting for Bush. And I can somewhat see the argument. But this is just too far.

[edited by djCT_watt]

 

Here are some link that debunk the video:
http://ourworld-top.cs.com/mikegriffith1/refute.htm
http://www.rotten.com/library/conspi...iracy_theories
http://www.911-strike.com/debunking.htm

And not all of these are biased, and have more links within the links.

But nobody wants to read what smart people write, they'd rather see a little flash movie by some retard with no education.

 

LMAO...................your so right, if this thing was something of any valididty i would have seen it on discovery or something, but looks like it should be on lifetime.

 

Or Cartoon Network.

 

 

glad someone is smarter than me and got answers i like