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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
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When is this supposed to be? I'd love to go down after my turbo goes on.
The Nashville event is on July 26-27. We will be attending the summit points and VIR events as well.

Here's the full schedule: http://www.redlinetimeattack.com/index-5.html

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Hmm, might not be ready in time for that, plus Nashville is pretty far. The Summit Raceway might be looking good. That track looks really familiar for some reason.

Is this going to be a Scion specific day, or would other makes be allowed, because I know my friend will want to bring his 58trim Evo.

Redline Time Attack is ALL cars that want to run.
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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^ Thanks, wasn't sure.

Miller Motorsports shows $400 for the 2 day event, anyone know if Summit will be around the same?
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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how are you guys handling blow by and the small breather tube that comes out the drivers side of the valve cover. just leaving it open?, putting a filter on it?, etc etc... awesome work so far BTW
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^^Catch can is what a lot of people run.
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
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When is this supposed to be? I'd love to go down after my turbo goes on.
The Nashville event is on July 26-27. We will be attending the summit points and VIR events as well.

Here's the full schedule: http://www.redlinetimeattack.com/index-5.html

MrC
Hmm, might not be ready in time for that, plus Nashville is pretty far. The Summit Raceway might be looking good. That track looks really familiar for some reason.

Is this going to be a Scion specific day, or would other makes be allowed, because I know my friend will want to bring his 58trim Evo.
The Summit Points event will be held on the Shenadoah Circuit. This circuit is very technical with a lot of elevation changes and off camber turns. This is one track where you will need a dry sump or accusump oiling system for sure if you're running a lot of power. Also if you're running a tC, you will definitely need a fuel surge tank since you will experience fuel starvation with just the factory fuel tank--we know this from experience even when running a half tank of gas. The corners here great some massive g-force especially with racing tires and it's a very technical track.

The time attack is for all make and car, it's just that we are running a scion.

Here's some info and an aerial photo of the Shenandoah Circuit at Summit Points.

At variable lengths ranging between 1.68 and 2.2 miles, the Shenandoah Circuit is a no-holds-bared technical challenge that will take years to master. Sporting a dimensional replica of Der Nurburgring at 20 deg banking, camber changes (including negative) incorporated with with decreasing radius corners positioned on vertical drops, the Shenandoah Circuit is the odds-on favorite to be the most technical track in the country.



Just an FYI, we are sponsoring the Summit Points events by offering exclusively to the scion community discounted tickets to the event. The tickets are normally $15 to enter, but we will be offering flyers that will get you into the door for $10. Ptuning will pay the $5 difference directly to Redline Time Attack/Summit Points. If you are interested in attending the Summit Points event, let us know. We will be printing those flyers shortly.

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^^Catch can is what a lot of people run.
i know.. but typically you've got 2 ports on a catch can.. inlet from the VC and outlet... now are they running an endyne or moroso style can with a breather filter on top with a single line dumping gases though the top filter.... or are they running another style can that runs from the vc to the can and from the can it has to connect to some place else.. were does that extra line connect to... dumping burnt gases or possible oil back into the turbo would seem a tad blah to do...
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Hmm, maybe I'll just go down for some photography and video. But that means I need to buy a new camera lens .

Btw, is that track in Forza2, because i seriously feel like I've gone around that track a few hundred times already
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Originally Posted by TCpete
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^^Catch can is what a lot of people run.
i know.. but typically you've got 2 ports on a catch can.. inlet from the VC and outlet... now are they running an endyne or moroso style can with a breather filter on top with a single line dumping gases though the top filter.... or are they running another style can that runs from the vc to the can and from the can it has to connect to some place else.. were does that extra line connect to... dumping burnt gases or possible oil back into the turbo would seem a tad blah to do...

Two port catch cans are usually routed back into the intake that is connected to the turbo. It's a catch can, so it "catches" the oil, and sends clean air back into the intake (if you have it routed there). Otherwise they let the other port vent to atmosphere as well.
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PTuning, any idea how much that roll cage setup would run a customer? I'm thinking of running the Autopower Roll cage. The Autopower Cage is SCCA and NASA legal. Prices for it are around $800-$900 I believe.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
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^^Catch can is what a lot of people run.
i know.. but typically you've got 2 ports on a catch can.. inlet from the VC and outlet... now are they running an endyne or moroso style can with a breather filter on top with a single line dumping gases though the top filter.... or are they running another style can that runs from the vc to the can and from the can it has to connect to some place else.. were does that extra line connect to... dumping burnt gases or possible oil back into the turbo would seem a tad blah to do...

Two port catch cans are usually routed back into the intake that is connected to the turbo. It's a catch can, so it "catches" the oil, and sends clean air back into the intake (if you have it routed there). Otherwise they let the other port vent to atmosphere as well.

thats what im asking.. if you vent to atmosphere your probably going to get oil coming out of it... this is why i was asking about endyne / moroso style catch cans as they alow you to vent to atmosphere while still catching oil and being able to drain oil.. here is a picture of what im talking about and probably a setup im going to use.

note this catch can has dual filters.. but one is all most of us need. im still debating on wether to ad an extra fitting for more venting and releasing as much crank case pressure and VC pressure as possible... but this is all theory also.. but works welll on hondas and nissans and other toyos... so i might follow the same path.
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PTuning, any idea how much that roll cage setup would run a customer? I'm thinking of running the Autopower Roll cage. The Autopower Cage is SCCA and NASA legal. Prices for it are around $800-$900 I believe.
I couldn't tell you off-hand until we offer it as a service. We can build a roll-cage but we don't specializing in building cages at the moment. But if you were to have a shop that specialized in buiding cages, i would say along the lines of $3500-$5000. The cage is a 10-point cage with gusseting on the a-pillar, b-pillar, door-bar, and rear suspension cross-member.

A bolt-in cage is much for feasible, but if you wanted something custom, it's going to cost $$$. Even if you bought a bolt-in cage or a weld-in cage, you still need to consider the cost for installation, if you're not doing it yourself. A roll-cage is not mandatory in time-attack--if i remember correctly, since it's not true wheel-to-wheel racing. We built our cage just for the extra safety and piece of mind, plus the car will potentially be putting out a tremendous amount of power, which will allow it to achieve very high speeds, even on tight tracks..

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Ok, where getting close. Here's a few pictures of the aluminum roof, painted flaired factory fenders, and our modified factory front bumper and lip spoiler. We are still waiting on our blank CF spitter material and we will cut a custom splitter for the front. Also we'll need to make some custom tow-hook for the front and rear. The word custom is starting to get real expensive.






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This might have been covered in earlier posts but not sure.

Did you modify the factory bumper for more airflow to the intercooler ?
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Originally Posted by TCpete
thats what im asking.. if you vent to atmosphere your probably going to get oil coming out of it...

No, you wouldn't. oil is a liquid.....it will fall in to the catch can. Clean air would come out the other port vented or not.
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Very clean Ptuning. Can't wait to see it first hand.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
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thats what im asking.. if you vent to atmosphere your probably going to get oil coming out of it...

No, you wouldn't. oil is a liquid.....it will fall in to the catch can. Clean air would come out the other port vented or not.
no travis im saying if the fitting on the VC has no breather on it and is just vented like the pics on pg 1.. oil is going to come out... i know because ive seen it happen to a few tc's that have nothing on that breather tube that pops out the vc... get it now?


BTW PTUNING.. i love what you guys did with the open holes on the bumper... super nice!!!!
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Yeah I got you. That's the way mine is right now. I have a tube on it to lead down through the bay so oil can drip down. Until I get a catch can that is.
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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I had my VC vent open for awhile and I did have one drop of oil come out. There a block plate built into the inside of the VC preventing oil to blow out. Oil does however come out of the PCV vavle that connects to the intake manifold.
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i should just start a thread on this and not jack the OP's thread..

im trying to see what ppl are doing on various setups for this... wether to add addition venting like the pic above and route lines to a catch can which will drain back into the block or oil pan.
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^^that's what I was talking about. The PCV. VC has nothing coming out of it.



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