SC OWNERS: Broken Supercharger Impeller housing mount
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Josh, we've all spent $3500+ on a mod we expect to be reliable. 
Toyota & Co needs to look at it from our point of view -
(Those of you here in NJ can relate to this.) If you drive up the NJ Turnpike as I do every single day on my way home from work, on the northbound side around exit 15W there's a HUGE scion Billboard showing......
A red tC, customized to hell with a wack paint job, body mods and wheels....... None of which you'll find in any Scion catalog.
and it says "Scion tC. !@#%!@^$% the Joneses."
If you read the Scion magazines that are in your dealers, they just OOZE the fact that this Scion you are about to purchase is one CUSTOMIZABLE MACHINE just WAITING for you to do stuff to it.
It does not say ANYWHERE in their ad campaigns or dealer-based scion mags "Do any of this and kiss your factory warranty goodbye."
Companies have lost warranty-related lawsuits for FAR more subtle ads. And Scion's tactics are ANYTHING but subtle.
Now, we all know where we stand with regards to mods + the supercharger - but this problem is happening to STOCK setups with proper torque values. TRD is supposed to be Toyota's RACING division - and they can't make a bracket that holds down their own supercharger?
Adding insult to injury is that TRD is giving different people different information about just what the heck is going on with this.
You can't blame Nick (or anyone else) for being ticked off. $3500 is a lot of money - particularly when you consider how young Scion's target market (usually) is.
This is all about ownership. It's all about taking care of the problem SOMEHOW. So far, Scion/Toyota/TRD has refused to take ownership of this issue, and they do not seem in the least bit inclined to do so.
That's why you're going to see a lot of ticked off people in here
The bottom line is this. Toyota owns Scion. Scion markets themselves as a "car just WAITING to be tricked out." TRD is supposed to be a RACING division, but makes a faulty bracket they won't own up to. Now everyone is pointing fingers saying "The problem is this", "The problem is that," or "Well, it doesn't matter, you customized something and now your warranty is void."
THIS is what Scion has become to us. I don't think ANY ONE OF US would recommend a scion, much less the tC supercharger, should this continue.
Toyota & Co needs to look at it from our point of view -
(Those of you here in NJ can relate to this.) If you drive up the NJ Turnpike as I do every single day on my way home from work, on the northbound side around exit 15W there's a HUGE scion Billboard showing......
A red tC, customized to hell with a wack paint job, body mods and wheels....... None of which you'll find in any Scion catalog.
and it says "Scion tC. !@#%!@^$% the Joneses."
If you read the Scion magazines that are in your dealers, they just OOZE the fact that this Scion you are about to purchase is one CUSTOMIZABLE MACHINE just WAITING for you to do stuff to it.
It does not say ANYWHERE in their ad campaigns or dealer-based scion mags "Do any of this and kiss your factory warranty goodbye."
Companies have lost warranty-related lawsuits for FAR more subtle ads. And Scion's tactics are ANYTHING but subtle.
Now, we all know where we stand with regards to mods + the supercharger - but this problem is happening to STOCK setups with proper torque values. TRD is supposed to be Toyota's RACING division - and they can't make a bracket that holds down their own supercharger?
Adding insult to injury is that TRD is giving different people different information about just what the heck is going on with this.
You can't blame Nick (or anyone else) for being ticked off. $3500 is a lot of money - particularly when you consider how young Scion's target market (usually) is.
This is all about ownership. It's all about taking care of the problem SOMEHOW. So far, Scion/Toyota/TRD has refused to take ownership of this issue, and they do not seem in the least bit inclined to do so.
That's why you're going to see a lot of ticked off people in here
The bottom line is this. Toyota owns Scion. Scion markets themselves as a "car just WAITING to be tricked out." TRD is supposed to be a RACING division, but makes a faulty bracket they won't own up to. Now everyone is pointing fingers saying "The problem is this", "The problem is that," or "Well, it doesn't matter, you customized something and now your warranty is void."
THIS is what Scion has become to us. I don't think ANY ONE OF US would recommend a scion, much less the tC supercharger, should this continue.
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From: Andersen AFB, Guam
Originally Posted by josh_trdsparks
Originally Posted by Smthkd
Well guys, I had enough. Im in contact with a lawyer right now! Im starting a class action lawsuit on a defective TRD unit and TRD negligence to recall them by hiding behing its warrenty and tamper proof cap which has no bearing of this problem. If you are interested or having a similar proble please email me your name, address, desciption of your problems with pics attached if possible to SMTHKD@bellsouth.net!!!
OH and Highlander I'm still here. lol
Just been busy. lolOK now here's the reason I'm posting. I talked to one of the guys at TRD that is not retarded apparently and he told me that there is a specific order in which these bolts must be tightened down. If it is not done properly the bracket will break and so on.
This part is available for sale by itself as well. The part # is PTR01-21054 and I can sell it for $75 shipped to anyone who wants to buy one. OR if you need to know what the tell your dealer to order there's the part #.
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A red tC, customized to hell with a wack paint job, body mods and wheels....... None of which you'll find in any Scion catalog.
and it says "Scion tC. !@#%!@^$% the Joneses." [quote]
hey did the red tC look like this
and it says "Scion tC. !@#%!@^$% the Joneses." [quote]
hey did the red tC look like this
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nah, had a different paint job. I'll try to remember my camera tomorrow and grab a shot of it on my way home.
Regardless, the point is - what scion markets and what scion supports are two completely different things.
Regardless, the point is - what scion markets and what scion supports are two completely different things.
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Originally Posted by greenbox
ok every one let me tell you my experience with the trd s/c. I got the s/c when it just was released and it has broken down on me 3 times. first time i found the 12 point bolt not fully tightened and secured. Which lead to the seal leaking oil. Yes i did have the zpi pulley and headers. 2nd time the bearings on the shaft fell appart this time im running stock and then got the bearings from your local parts store and fixed again. 3rd time i found the braket cracked and got it through warranty. Just to make it all clear i work for a tyota dealer and I am toyota certifed for 8 yrs now. I was also trained by the head honcho at TRD mr. Bob Garner for the s/c for the tundras and the S/c for the matrix/corollas. So i pretty well follow the instructions on the tc s/c. So i dont know what to say about all the s/c problems but i do know that for myself its not a reliable unit. I also came to find out that the brakets had a problem when the kits were first sold. that was told to me by a close friend who does all the cnc machinig for trd, nismo, and honda racing.
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Originally Posted by josh_trdsparks
This part is available for sale by itself as well. The part # is PTR01-21054 and I can sell it for $75 shipped to anyone who wants to buy one. OR if you need to know what the tell your dealer to order there's the part #.
Josh
Josh
i want an extra bracket, i already had mine replaced thru warranty
( $hit happens who cares whos fault it is ) this is how i feel with trd
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Originally Posted by IceNine
Josh, we've all spent $3500+ on a mod we expect to be reliable.
Toyota & Co needs to look at it from our point of view -
(Those of you here in NJ can relate to this.) If you drive up the NJ Turnpike as I do every single day on my way home from work, on the northbound side around exit 15W there's a HUGE scion Billboard showing......
A red tC, customized to hell with a wack paint job, body mods and wheels....... None of which you'll find in any Scion catalog.
and it says "Scion tC. !@#%!@^$% the Joneses."
If you read the Scion magazines that are in your dealers, they just OOZE the fact that this Scion you are about to purchase is one CUSTOMIZABLE MACHINE just WAITING for you to do stuff to it.
It does not say ANYWHERE in their ad campaigns or dealer-based scion mags "Do any of this and kiss your factory warranty goodbye."
Companies have lost warranty-related lawsuits for FAR more subtle ads. And Scion's tactics are ANYTHING but subtle.
Now, we all know where we stand with regards to mods + the supercharger - but this problem is happening to STOCK setups with proper torque values. TRD is supposed to be Toyota's RACING division - and they can't make a bracket that holds down their own supercharger?
Adding insult to injury is that TRD is giving different people different information about just what the heck is going on with this.
You can't blame Nick (or anyone else) for being ticked off. $3500 is a lot of money - particularly when you consider how young Scion's target market (usually) is.
This is all about ownership. It's all about taking care of the problem SOMEHOW. So far, Scion/Toyota/TRD has refused to take ownership of this issue, and they do not seem in the least bit inclined to do so.
That's why you're going to see a lot of ticked off people in here
The bottom line is this. Toyota owns Scion. Scion markets themselves as a "car just WAITING to be tricked out." TRD is supposed to be a RACING division, but makes a faulty bracket they won't own up to. Now everyone is pointing fingers saying "The problem is this", "The problem is that," or "Well, it doesn't matter, you customized something and now your warranty is void."
THIS is what Scion has become to us. I don't think ANY ONE OF US would recommend a scion, much less the tC supercharger, should this continue.
Toyota & Co needs to look at it from our point of view -
(Those of you here in NJ can relate to this.) If you drive up the NJ Turnpike as I do every single day on my way home from work, on the northbound side around exit 15W there's a HUGE scion Billboard showing......
A red tC, customized to hell with a wack paint job, body mods and wheels....... None of which you'll find in any Scion catalog.
and it says "Scion tC. !@#%!@^$% the Joneses."
If you read the Scion magazines that are in your dealers, they just OOZE the fact that this Scion you are about to purchase is one CUSTOMIZABLE MACHINE just WAITING for you to do stuff to it.
It does not say ANYWHERE in their ad campaigns or dealer-based scion mags "Do any of this and kiss your factory warranty goodbye."
Companies have lost warranty-related lawsuits for FAR more subtle ads. And Scion's tactics are ANYTHING but subtle.
Now, we all know where we stand with regards to mods + the supercharger - but this problem is happening to STOCK setups with proper torque values. TRD is supposed to be Toyota's RACING division - and they can't make a bracket that holds down their own supercharger?
Adding insult to injury is that TRD is giving different people different information about just what the heck is going on with this.
You can't blame Nick (or anyone else) for being ticked off. $3500 is a lot of money - particularly when you consider how young Scion's target market (usually) is.
This is all about ownership. It's all about taking care of the problem SOMEHOW. So far, Scion/Toyota/TRD has refused to take ownership of this issue, and they do not seem in the least bit inclined to do so.
That's why you're going to see a lot of ticked off people in here
The bottom line is this. Toyota owns Scion. Scion markets themselves as a "car just WAITING to be tricked out." TRD is supposed to be a RACING division, but makes a faulty bracket they won't own up to. Now everyone is pointing fingers saying "The problem is this", "The problem is that," or "Well, it doesn't matter, you customized something and now your warranty is void."
THIS is what Scion has become to us. I don't think ANY ONE OF US would recommend a scion, much less the tC supercharger, should this continue.
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Oh man, well, this looks like a repeat thread of the one I had going with the oil leaking problem.
Just bad things coming from TRD again, and they won't be of any service... Oh well, what can you do? Its simple, stop buying things from TRD, and get other people to stop. The only way to get them back is to keep them from screwing other Scion owneres.
From this day forward I will not ever tell someone they should get the S/C.
Just bad things coming from TRD again, and they won't be of any service... Oh well, what can you do? Its simple, stop buying things from TRD, and get other people to stop. The only way to get them back is to keep them from screwing other Scion owneres.
From this day forward I will not ever tell someone they should get the S/C.
Well I am not sticking up for trd because I could care less really who hates them and who does not but so far my sc has been very reliable besides the cracked bracket. No issues. Yes I do think the kit has a few flaws but I live them. I bought this sc kit as a performance part I knew I would be modding, so I have no issues with repairs. and if somthing happens I have the know how to tear it down and rebuild it. But that is just me...
I can say TRD did take care of me on a VERY large issue when the sc was bone stock "engine related" so I cannot complain. I am sorry you guys are so ____ed about the sc. I love it.
I can say TRD did take care of me on a VERY large issue when the sc was bone stock "engine related" so I cannot complain. I am sorry you guys are so ____ed about the sc. I love it.
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I'm personally not ____ed about the supercharger. It's a vortech unit, nothing crazy there. My problem is with TRD not taking ownership for their portion of the design.
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Obviously it'll depend on the dealer. The dealer could see ANY mod and just say "oh, sorry, your warranty is void".
Regardless, they're making dealers eat the cost of repairing them. They don't get any warranty money in return for replacing this bracket because TRD is blaming the dealer for the fault (they claim overtorquing the bolt is the issue, which is a lot of BS).
Regardless, they're making dealers eat the cost of repairing them. They don't get any warranty money in return for replacing this bracket because TRD is blaming the dealer for the fault (they claim overtorquing the bolt is the issue, which is a lot of BS).
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I am deffinetly not mad about the supercharger. I am very happy with its performance. Its the lack of support from TRD/toyota that I do not like. And its not just the supercharger.
I am having warranty issues right now on tires. What dealer replaces ONE tire when they had my toe and camber off 2 degrees and admitted to uneven wear? Everyone knows you cant have 12000 miles difference in tire wear from one tire to the other three.
But thats off topic.
I am having warranty issues right now on tires. What dealer replaces ONE tire when they had my toe and camber off 2 degrees and admitted to uneven wear? Everyone knows you cant have 12000 miles difference in tire wear from one tire to the other three.
But thats off topic.
I actually just called TRD and spoke with Bob there. He was very polite and to the point about the issue. I told him I was pretty much ignored at the dealer about the bracket and they would never call me back. He was concerned and told me who to call and file a complaint with. Also told me to call a cetain number and they would order me a bracket straight away. I told him I already had mine custom welded and reinforced and he asked for photo's and info on it and how it was reinforced. Also the other news is he flat admitted it is not just torque causing the issue. He said many of the dealers are torquing the jack bolts "3 allen bolts on the hub were the shaft enters the is, aka the oil leak spot" before installing. This not only can cause an oil leak, but also will cause massive stress on the sc bracket causing it to break. All comes down to proper install and I totally agree with him.
DOOOD Before you let them put the seal in, make sure to see the package and get a part number off the seal! Knowing vortech they use an off the shelf seal and we all need to know that part number!
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Originally Posted by Garage1217
DOOOD Before you let them put the seal in, make sure to see the package and get a part number off the seal! Knowing vortech they use an off the shelf seal and we all need to know that part number!