So since I have an s-pipe and a cat back exhaust and a CAI what do you think i'll have if i install the s/c?

 

210-215whp and 190ish wtq. Give or take.

 

Sport Compact and a few others are in the 230-235 whp range with a pulley upgrade (ZPI, 9psi) and a full header back exhaust.

 

also note that CAI means nothing since you cant use it.

 

so wait to continue from the previous page the TRD add says 200 "hp" not "whp".... so your saying w/ 7psi the scion is puttin down 200 WHEEL hp w/ the factory s/c? personally a 40hp gain at 7psi was thinking "wtf?" but if it really is 200 whp then that is good.


i am going back for my test drive again today. i wont be getting one until the 07 s/c comes out though. how a$$ is this.... if i get the car WITH the s/c from day 1 i have a 36K/3yr warranty on it. if i drive the car off the lot and put it on later.... even by the dealer... 12K/1yr warranty on it. that is redoculous.

 

um no, if a dealer puts it on you get the rest of the 36k/3year no matter when you put it on (unless the 12k/1 year is longer, then you get that.)
you cant get the supercharger with the car unless you happen to have 3200+install lying around.

and again, yes, it puts 200hp down to the wheels.

 

well, i was going by what scion said for accessories since it is classified as an accessory....

Genuine Scion Accessories:
Accessories installed at the time of the new vehicle purchase are covered for 36 months/36,000 miles, from the vehicle's in-service date, whichever occurs first, under the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Accessories installed by the dealer after the new vehicle purchase are covered for 12 months, regardless of mileage, from the accessory installation date, or the remainder of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty, whichever provides greater coverage. Accessories purchased over-the-counter are covered for 12 months from the date of purchase. Car covers are warranted for 12 months from the purchase date and are not covered by the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.







on a side note, how loud is the factor bov? knowing how they make cars to be quiet.... i bet you cant hear it at all.





edit... ah i gotta read better. Accessories installed by the dealer after the new vehicle purchase are covered for 12 months, regardless of mileage, from the accessory installation date, or the remainder of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty, whichever provides greater coverage.

 

It doesn't come with a BOV, which vents air to the atmosphere, it comes with a BPV, which recirculates back to the intake since we use a MAF sensor. It's basically the same recirculating setup as the 1.8t VW/Audi engines, and the engines don't handle a straight BOV setup too well. I find the BPV setup very quiet (too quiet for some). I even wouldn't mind the s/c whine to be a little louder, kind of like the roots-type s/c.

There is a way to get a "hybrid" recirculating BOV that recirculates some air and vents the rest to the atmosphere and get some sound, but not as loud. I don't know anyone with that kind of setup though, so I can't say it's a 100% safe option. Also, changing out the stock BPV, as well as making any one of a few changes to the s/c setup, will automatically void the s/c warranty as stated with the s/c literature.

The Magnusson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975 protects consumers from such fradulent activity by new car dealers. Under this Act, aftermarket equipment that improves performance does not void a vehicle manufacturer's orginial warranty, unless the warranty clearly states the addition of aftermarket equipment automatically voids your vehicle's warrany or if it can be proven that the aftermarket device is the direct cause of the failure.

 

Said the same thing with 05s. Oh about 2 or 3 months tops. Around a year later it showed up for MT only. A little while later it was out for AT also.

 

and then with the tC looking like it would be lucky to last till the end of the year.....

 

Just don't do it if you are looking to do anything else to the car. If you want about 180-190whp then get the S/C and stay with it.
If you are looking for ANYTHING more than that, and to be still under Warranty, then just make sure you can EASILY hide it.
I had issues due to an INTAKE. Yes, they tried to void my warranty because of a SHORT RAM intake.
And after all the issues I have had with my car, the dealership is not willing to do ANYTHING for me. PS DO NOT EVER go to Texas Toyota in Grapevine TX.. for those in Dallas.

You can ask around here, I think alot of people know that I have had my time with the S/C.
I have been to 227whp and back. I am on my THIRD S/C, and I have seen the inside of a dealership almost more than I have driven the car lately.

 

do you think having a s/c and a tanabe concept g exhaust mess up my 07 TC's warrenty when ever they come out with the newer supercharger?

 

an exhaust shouldnt do anything, they would really have to hit a lot of people over the head very hard to get that through.

 

No I couldn't see them blaming anything on an exhaust. They would really have no leg to stand on with that one.
But as far as power with keeping warranty, you are going to be looking at probably 200 whp MAX!!!
I got 208 with a 3" mandrel exhaust and custom intake...
Dont forget, however big your exhaust is, the air still needs to get in before it goes out.

 

the airflow is only as good as the smallest space it has to flow through, or it was something like that anyway.

 

so i emailed TRD to see if i could find out b4 i got my 07 and this is what i asked....


I know you have probably been asked this question a million times, but,
here is one million one......

My purchase of an 07 scion tC solely depends on the development of a super
charger by TRD. I know the 05/06 s/c won't fit the 07, but, what I do not
know is when will TRD release the s/c for the 07? If it is not going to
be anytime terribly soon then I will hold off on my tC purchase. I was
also planning on getting an automatic. Do you plan on developing a s/c
for the auto as well? The only reason I am buying the tC is for the s/c
option. I would hate to buy the tC and be stuck without a warrantied TRD s/c. I
would hate even more to buy an automatic and have the TRD s/c only be
released for a manual. See where I am going? So, do you have any
information on the TRD s/c or any advice such as "do not buy the automatic
because are not making a s/c for it" ? Anything like that would be great
as I plan on making my purchase (or not) within the next two weeks. It
all hinges on the TRD s/c. A time frame for release (and if and when you
are releasing it for an auto) would be fantastic. Thanks in advance.




and their reply...

Thank you for your interest in TRD. At this time, there is no ETA for the
'07 Scion tC supercharger kit. Feel free to contact us for updates in the
near future.




and my reply...

That answered one question. What about the auto/manual development? Even
if there is no ETA.... are you even making one? I do not want to buy the
car if you are not making one and I will not buy an auto if you are not
making one for the auto.


and their reply....

It will be compatible with the automatic and manual transmission
applications.




yea, sure, their first release will get around the a/t fluid dipstick. i aint holding my breath and i wont buy a tC until i have confirmation it will be out for the auto.


on a side note, how do the clutches hold up in the manuals? i have driven auto all my life and do all city driving. i am debating just buying a manual and learning how to get it off the lot and home

 

actually from what i have heard a scion is really good to learn manual with.

 

Usually cars are easier to learn to drive stick. But aint nobody gonna use my car to learn!!!

 

well, has anyone thought that TRD might be working on coming out with a "factory" turbo for the '07?? I remember in another posting/discusion ZIP stated that there "will be a turbo application for the tC", "that is all." This is apossibility seeingas people are saying that the supercharger price is dropping. Has anyone called TRD to see if they'll give up info about that at all??

Additionally, there was another posting about Chris Rado (now that i think about it was the same discussion) stating that the Descendant turbo setup was working with TRD on a "special ECU" .... just something for you guys to think about.

 

Descendant turbo kit is for the 05s and up scion tCs. They always planing to make one for the next gen Xb, Martix and the corolla. I think that is one reason why TRD might be taking so long to make a supercharger for the 07s. I think they are working on another project.