- Space the pedals out a little bit more
- Rear wiper
- Making the current stock rims an optional upgrade; 16" steelies as a stock option would've been nice (I know the Tuner Spec model has this). For an econo car, the tires are both lousy (traction wise) and expensive to replace.
- more padding in the seats. For long distance driving, the seats are uncomfortable (alternately, the xB1 seats do not have this problem).
- Use whatever plastic that was used in the 1st gen xB, the weird surface traps dirt pretty easily

If there was anything that really bothered me about the tC, it's the lack of the rear wiper. I would've paid extra for that feature, believe me.

 

Regarding this: The 2.7 Dual VVT-i is already in development for the New Highlander and Venza. The Dual VVT-i was something I have been asking about since Scion first started. As well as lifters. I thought it would be nice if they made the xA with the Celica GTS 1.8 VVTL-i engine. We got the xD with a 1.8L Dual VVT-i engine.
Generally you are right with Toyota and other manufacters transfering over engines into the next coming year models, but if you look at the xD it got the 2009 Corolla Engine before the Corolla was already released here. If the Developement of a 2.7 DVVT-i or DVVTL-i engine becomes a reality expect it to phase out the 2.4.
MY previous question still remains can a 2.7 Dual VVTL-i engine be made and what kind of performance would be expected.

 

Awesome... Totally awesome!!!
I'm not so sure anyone here can say IF the 2.7L DVVTL-i engine can be made(probalby only Toy. execs/ high ups on the totum pole know/maybe some of Toy. engineers) , but surely the performance out of that 2.7L engine would definitly surpase the 2.4L vvt-i .... no doubt! = probably produce very-very close/ if not 200 hp , 190ish torque stock.

 

I'm sure it's been said but just to remind you...
6 speed is a must.
More power in NA trim.
Fix those damned squeaks.
No more amber please!
Better supporting seats (I don't need buckets but something tighter would suffice).
Stock LSD.
Lose the drive by wire.

 

Well that wouldn't be such a problem if we had honda-like gearing and honda-like rev-happy engines...such as that of the celica gt-s.

1. At least a 7k redline
2. More lumbar support on the seats...PLEASE!!! How can you build a touring coupe in which you can't tour for more than an hour without the urge to jump out of your seat and stretch?

 

Addendum to my last post, which I was wrong:

The 1.8L VVTL-i engine(in the Celica/Corolla/Matrix)= can do 170 ish hp stock

So a 2.7L VVT-i engine(whats been in the Tacoma since what 1997 ish) , has been putting out about 185-190 hp. Now, if you make that engine DVVT-i + add the lift = DVVTL-i = I dont know dude , I could see easily 250-260 hp. Gotta figure to, the K20 engine is a 2.2L = is able to produce 240 ish hp , but given this 2.7L Toy engine would be a 1/2 liter bigger ..... I could easily see 10-20 hp above that mark.

I think the biggest problem with this either being reality, or not ... is Toyotas ability to wanting to make it happen#1 , but also coupling this engine with the PROPER TRANSMISSION that will be able to handle the hp/torque out of this 4cyl engine. I've seen Honda jack up some things with the 3.5L V6 engine(in the earlier RL models) , as that engine is the same engine in the NSX , then what Honda did was just slap a transmission onto that 3.5L (not a proper performance fit between engine+tranny) , which resulted in Honda recalling / offering extended warrenties to the owners of those RL's if any tranny problems occured. My brother got a new tranny out of Honda on his 1996 RL , and the car at the time had about 165K miles on it !!!


Cannot wait to see it produced ...... come on Toyota, get on your horse already, you know consumers would want it (in fairly large numbers .... not a small market share) !!!

 

QFT, but when was the last time Toyota tried to squeeze as much HP as possible out of an engine? They've been using a 160hp 2.4L for years...I really can't see them making that big of a change and try to make a 250hp 2.7L.

 

It would be nice to see the 2.5 in the IS250s. It just doesn't seem very likely they'd produce a new block when they have tested & proven ones in existence.

 

Good point about using existing engines that have proven themselves, vs. totally rethinking a new engine. However the 2.7L has been in production for the last 10 years , it would just be the addition of some key variables(DVVT-i ... and the lift option).

Yeah, that 2.5L V6 in that IS would be interesting in the new tC
In that Lexus, they also offer it as a AWD option
Also.. also, considering how the new technology of 2-3 cylinder shut down on V6 engines to improve gas milage(mpg) , that 2.5L might be key to making that possible to coupe/sedans in the not too distant future

Now that Lexis IS 250, AWD I do believe is like $35K , so for Toy. to then put that in the tC .... they aint gonna charge $20K dollars for it , sorry bro but thats not how business works now a days

 

6spd
RWD
1.8L VVTi Celica GTS engine or make this 2.4L a real fking 2.4L DAMNIT

Why is it so restricted? Charge me 20k out the door and give me 200hp NA stock with better suspension and 6spd.

Why do you think that Honda is >>> toyota in the performance area?

Because Toyota gave up after the 2JZ more than likely.

 

^^^I agree with you on the fact that Toyota could've definately given the 2AZ more *****. It is underpowered compared to MOST other 2.4s out there(even GM beats it at 175hp)

BUT! Scions whole theme since it started has been "CUSTOMIZE". To be honest, not many other 2.4s out there can handle as much BOOST as the 2AZ can in stock trim. The 2JZ was boost oriented and thats what Toyota does...they suck at N/A, the Celica made good HP but the 2ZZ was made of glass(not literally)!!!! Boost is Toyota's power maker, and they are VERY good at it.

The tC has held up to its "promise" of being customizable and has done it with loads of standard features at a GREAT price. Get a tC for $16K and spend the other $4K on boost and you have a monster well above 200hp for your desired $20K.

 

P.S. IS250 engine and drivetrain in tC would be PERFECTION in my opinion!

 

Here are just a few of my listing.

Creature Adds:
Needs Seats that offer a bit more comfort and also can handle a little more wear. Give them lil more of a sport look though.

Space the pedals out a little, not everyone has small feet. I wear a size 15 roughly and I have issues hitting the gas and brake at the same times if I am in a hurry.

Upgrade the materials for the interior, that thin cloth stuff on the center arm rest and the door panels scratches to easy with age.

Adjustable seat belt height would be a blessing.

Offer an upgraded stereo system with in dash dvd and bluetooth along with the normal stuff.

Offer the ability to change all LED lighting for the interior to different colors via a switch on the dash or something.

Body and Tech Changes:
The glass roof needs to be done over again but more though put into it. This thing pops bad around curves and there is a ton of wind noise, and it gets worse with age. My tC was built in the very first few months of tC production back in 2004 and has serious sound and popping and creaking issues with the roof.

Standard HID with Projectors for the Head Lights.

LED Tail Lights kind what we you see most cars now days, specially the Honda's.. I mean come on scion is better so it needs better :D

Keep the 17inch wheel size as standard on the car, just offer a little more of an agressive looking style, and maybe color options on the rims.

Keep the LED turn signals on the side mirrors, but please make them crystal white instead.

The overall basic look and stance of the tC is great, just needs to be made a little more agressive looking.

Under the hood:
First off lets make some more room behind the Head Lights, its a real pain for people with large hands and fingers to get to the bulbs.

Offer standard or optional CAI on the engine.

6spd tranny would be good.

Due to gas and oil going through the roof anything that can be done to increase the tC MPG without loosing sport would be nice :D I know its only hoping but eh oh well.

It would be nice to see some better turbo and SC options for the tC offered when you purchase the car itself.

other than that I think I am pretty happy.

Thanks,
-R

 

^im not sure but i think the clear turn signal markers are illegal. im pretty sure that all turn signals are supposed to be yellow/orange by law.

 

The law only covers the mandatory front turn signals. There is no law which says you must have turn signals on your mirrors, and so there is no law to state which color mirror turn signals have to be. It would be legal to have white ones, but it would be kind of useless in the daytime.

 

^gotcha. thanks for the clarification.

 

1. A factory Turbo option, not some weak ___ TRD crap charger!

2. LSD Standard

3. Less squeaks and rattles

4. 6 spd tranny

5. Stiffer suspension

 

After 2 years in my tC I can really tell the difference in the ride quality of a new one and mine. I'm able to drive a new tC everyday at work.
The parking lot the employees park on is an obstacle course, metal grate to cross, pot holes about 8" deep, loose gravel and divots in the road, then you cross over a bump track from the previous owner - its terrible in mine, the new one you have less noise and less being thrown around.

So something with the suspension or springs would be nice

heated outside mirrors - we've had a terrible winter in Kansas

if the fan buttons could be more sensitive < > seem slow

Previous people have mentioned the 6 speed MT - yes

blue tooth would make a great dealer install accessory

I love my sunroof - seats - amber illumination - wheels - iPod docking station - headlights - cargo hooks in the back seat rock! -

Accessories I'd like to see, door sills that would match the amber illum, not just blue (it doesn't match anything unless you are able to do an LED swap). An all weather cargo mat or the liner back.