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Any interest in having a shorter MT shift lever for the xB2?

Old Feb 28, 2011 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 09BCMxB
Hey Trevor,

I already installed the TRD SSK awhile back with NST bushings (both of them) and am very happy with the way shifting feels - no missed shifts or other anomalies. I would however like a shorter shifter. How do you think your shortened arm would work with my already installed SSK?

As a side note I want to say how impressed and appreciative I am with all your DIY articles and you've inspired me to readjust my clutch pedal & linkage. I always knew something was wring but the dealership insists everything is to spec. Now I know otherwise. Thanks!

go here: http://www.scikotics.com/forums/show...83#post2370683

I have THEE first (besides Trevor's) and did the DIY for it. I also installed the NST bushings as well.. I absolutely love the match up. next on the list is to readjust the clutch pedal, and maybe a TRD quick shift. I think the combination of the two will shorten the throw quite a bit, but you will be pleased. Also, not just to shorten the throw, the in cabin short shifter is more ergonomically pleasing too.
Old Feb 28, 2011 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 09BCMxB
Hey Trevor,

I already installed the TRD SSK awhile back with NST bushings (both of them) and am very happy with the way shifting feels - no missed shifts or other anomalies. I would however like a shorter shifter. How do you think your shortened arm would work with my already installed SSK?

As a side note I want to say how impressed and appreciative I am with all your DIY articles and you've inspired me to readjust my clutch pedal & linkage. I always knew something was wring but the dealership insists everything is to spec. Now I know otherwise. Thanks!
Wow, really happy to learn of someone lowering their clutch pedal! I only knew of one other person that did it, and speaking for both of us, the difference was/is night and day ! I don't know why Toyota sticks to that lousy setup, it's a real disservice to car and driver.

Speaking for myself, I simply hit the wall, couldn't accept it anymore -- just felt too darned wrong. 'Course, adjusting the clutch pedal setup isn't trivial, but I think the DIY description is friendly enough to put good clutch feel within reach of any moderately handy individual -- just takes attention to detail and patience. Real glad it worked out for you !

I don't have experience with the combination of in-cabin short shifter and TRD QuickShifter, but I do know the short shifter exactly preserves the engagement feel of the OE shifter. So, if you're happy with the TRD, I really wouldn't expect my mod to present a problem. Further, every owner so far loves the feel and naturalness of the in-cabin short shifter, so regardless of your existing TRD, there is unquestionably something still available to be enjoyed. Hope this helps !
Old Feb 28, 2011 | 04:42 AM
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I think the mod is a great idea, but a bunch of guys looked at it and said " My so and so has a tap and die set, I'll hook up my own." I know I just did. I know most people would be too scared to mess up their whole shift assembly or just too lazy to do the work you did so this is still a viable idea. You're definitely an innovator and I appreciate that for sure Trevor! Keep up the good work!
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Only problem is having a tap and die set isn't enough. You also have to reduce the shoulder to the point that the die will fit, and that's a fair amount of metal to remove. Further, the reduced metal has to be appropriately round and concentric.

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But, if that worked out OK, then good for you. How's the result with the TRD Quickshifter?
Old Mar 3, 2011 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by A-snell
go here: http://www.scikotics.com/forums/show...83#post2370683

I have THEE first (besides Trevor's) and did the DIY for it. I also installed the NST bushings as well.. I absolutely love the match up. next on the list is to readjust the clutch pedal, and maybe a TRD quick shift. I think the combination of the two will shorten the throw quite a bit, but you will be pleased. Also, not just to shorten the throw, the in cabin short shifter is more ergonomically pleasing too.
You are actually how I found this thread. I was searching on Google for something completely different and your thread on one of the other forums came up. Much thanks to you for that!
Old Mar 3, 2011 | 04:32 AM
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So how much are we looking at Trevor? I'm probably going to keep my original shifter. I've been keeping all the stock parts in case I either decide to revert back to stock or if I ever sell the car.
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Originally Posted by 09BCMxB
So how much are we looking at Trevor? I'm probably going to keep my original shifter. I've been keeping all the stock parts in case I either decide to revert back to stock or if I ever sell the car.
Greets !

It's $99 shipped to the contiguous states and APO addresses. I'll pay you $25 for a good condition original shift assembly, but if you plan to keep yours, then that kills that.
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Originally Posted by 09BCMxB
You are actually how I found this thread. I was searching on Google for something completely different and your thread on one of the other forums came up. Much thanks to you for that!

:D sweet deal!!
Old Mar 4, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TrevorS
Greets !

It's $99 shipped to the contiguous states and APO addresses. I'll pay you $25 for a good condition original shift assembly, but if you plan to keep yours, then that kills that.
I should have mentioned I'm in Hawaii. Same price? Priority Flat Rate box?
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Originally Posted by 09BCMxB
I should have mentioned I'm in Hawaii. Same price? Priority Flat Rate box?
Unfortunately, the shift assembly is too bulky to fit in a Priority flat rate box (wish it did )! Give me your zip code and I'll quote the difference to you.
Old Mar 5, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TrevorS
Unfortunately, the shift assembly is too bulky to fit in a Priority flat rate box (wish it did )! Give me your zip code and I'll quote the difference to you.
My zip is 96707.
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Originally Posted by 09BCMxB
My zip is 96707.
Well, what do you know -- same rate as for WA, didn't realize that -- and I see the postal rates have gone up again ! OK, so yes, the same price. I'm sending a PM.
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Just want to say, I too installed the short throw from Trev in my car a while back... STILL having fun with it. I do recommend it to anyone looking for an easy mod. I showed a buddy of mine who works in a machine shop, he said the craftsmanship was spot on and that it was a pretty ingenious idea. Love it!
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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LT- I am curious about the following highlighted:

Mods: Tanabe Strut Tower Brace, Hotchkis F&R Swaybars, Eibach Sportline Springs, FIG 4 piece grille set, Forjworks Eyelids, Shark fin Antennae, AVS Seamless vent visors, Hella Supertone Horns, CF Front Bumper overlay, Black door handle applique with "xB" punched out, 6000K HID Headlights, 5000K HID Fogs, CF Valve Cover, TRD Aluminum Oil Fill Cap.


Where did you get them from?? got a pic?? PM ME DOOD!!!


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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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Okay, here it is in a nutshell - I don't notice the shifter. I didn't say I don't notice a difference, I don't notice the shifter anymore.

When I bought the car, the shifter felt like I was driving an old Chevy truck. I installed the TRD short shift lit and that made shifting better but I still didn't like the feel. Now it feels like a sports car. It feels natural, smooth, and, well, stupid quick! This is awesome! And, the ergonomics are perfect. To me, this is how the shifter should have been from the start.
Between A-snell's (The Butcher) DIY and Trevor's additional installation instructions I was done in about 20 minutes. It took longer to read the DIY than to do the install.

What made a huge difference was adjusting the clutch per Trevor's instructions on a different thread. I did this right after the shifter and it's definitely night and day. I no longer have to lift my leg to step on the clutch. There's no more ambiguity in the feel of the engagement of the clutch. While I didn't adjust to the spec that Trevor listed, I have it right about where it needs to be. Grabbing a little higher than where I want it. I think 1 1/2 turns of the rod will put it right where I want it. Again, this is how it should have been from the factory.
I was able to do this without disconnecting the electrical but it took some doing. A 14mm stubby is very helpful for this.

Trevor, I appreciate what you've been doing and I thank you for sharing with us. Were it not for you I probably would have just lived with the way the car was. Now it's just about perfect. Thanks Trevor!
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now I just need the TRD quick shifter and to adjust the pedal... I've been wanting the quick shift for some time now..
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Like the man said, the pedal adjust is an absolute must!

PS -- My thanks to Andrew, Chris, Brad and Ken for not only trying out my mods, but taking the time to endorse them ! My primary goal is max enjoyment of this nifty vehicle, the interest and support of other owners is much appreciated.
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;) anytime Trevor.
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