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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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I love this guy right here. I am so down with this company that I will throw all others under the wheels of the freight train running into the ground. ZPI IS USING OTHERS PEOPLES MONEY TO BUILD THEM SELFS AND THATS NOT RIGHT. The only time that is ok is if you are using the money you have made AFTER SHIPPING THE ITEMS SOLD
Old Jun 22, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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I understand all comapnys borrow money but they make payments on the outstanding debt they dont keep racking up more and more.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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Bump cuz this crap needs to be seen!
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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I just wanted to say that even though ZPI wasn't able to get a pulley to me in over 2 months.. When I asked to cancel my order when issued a refund within 4 days of asking.

I won't be ordering from them again but they did return my money without a hassle.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 10:48 PM
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Is this for real? I cannot believe that you still don't have your money back.

-Eric- This is an e-mail that Keisha sent me last week, regarding my Stage 0 kit that was ordered in March 2006:

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Eric,

I apologize for the delay in response, however our office was closed June
12th until today, June 20th. All of the components are in for the Stage 0
kits and they have began shipping, however our shipping department is
shipping orders per their original order date. They are currently working
on filling February orders and should be moving on to March orders later in
the week to early next week. At this point in time I hate to put an ETA on
your turbo kit as I do not have an accurate one to quote.

The reason that your other order is showing as delivered is because that
order has been merged with your turbo kit order and will be shipped with
your kit.

As for our return policy, a turbo kit is a custom order and is affected by
the 25% cancellation fee because at this point in time we do have the parts
to produce your order which negates it from falling under the
non-deliverable category. Refunds are issued on the 15th of every month and
are sent via certified check. There is an entire slew of information
available on our website if there is anything that I've missed. It can be
found at http://www.zeropointindustries.net/store/shipping.php.

I know that waiting can be very frustrating and I apologize for the delay
that you have experienced. I do hope that you chose to continue business
with ZPIracing as we strive to satisfy our customers. I can assure you that
you will be very pleased with your kit and that the wait is worth it! But
regardless, please let me know what you'd like to do!

Thanks Eric,

Keisha

***

So if this holds true I should be getting a tracking number for my stage 0 in a couple of weeks. I will let you know how this turns out.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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I ordered a stage 0 and a few more things from them May 2006 also, and I'm starting to get kinda nervous about it not coming in before summer's over.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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Wow, this thread delivers.

ZPI should be banned from this site. Darren...just take Zpi's money, but dont allow them to advertise. Until he pays everone back. Scionlife shouldnt necasarilly be hald responsible, but we definatly have some muscle in this.

Where is this so-called shop located? Somone should go down there.

Also, you guys that are buying these kits. I saw one, it wasnt worth what is being payed for it, or the wait. Any turbo or aftermarket mechanic in your area can get parts with 80% better quality then what ZPI is selling.

Incase you dont already know, when you compress air, it becomes very hot...ie: turbo=compressed air being forced into the manifold. You need somthing to cool it in order for the turbo to even be effective.....Now what I'm trying to say is. THESE ZPI kits do not come with an intercooler. Atleast the stage 1 doesnt. It doesnt come with a BOV. So all that extra boost gets to flow back into your motor. Expect to melt wires, expext to damage the crap out your motor.

^ And thats if you even get your kit.
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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And now reports of the Stage 0 running way too lean.
Not good..
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by zer0
And now reports of the Stage 0 running way too lean.
Not good..
why doesnt that surprise me?
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 02:44 AM
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editted: I don't care. I was going to buy a turbo kit for my tC, but now I may sell the heap of cheap junk...
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Originally Posted by zer0
And now reports of the Stage 0 running way too lean.
Not good..
why doesnt that surprise me?
Because people are buying turbo kits that have no intercooler and run on the stock ecu and injectors?
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Originally Posted by zer0
And now reports of the Stage 0 running way too lean.
Not good..
why doesnt that surprise me?
Because people are buying turbo kits that have no intercooler and run on the stock ecu and injectors?
Aren't there people who got the stage 0 and got it to work just fine?
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Originally Posted by zer0
And now reports of the Stage 0 running way too lean.
Not good..
why doesnt that surprise me?
Because people are buying turbo kits that have no intercooler and run on the stock ecu and injectors?
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by suhhh
Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Originally Posted by zer0
And now reports of the Stage 0 running way too lean.
Not good..
why doesnt that surprise me?
Because people are buying turbo kits that have no intercooler and run on the stock ecu and injectors?
Aren't there people who got the stage 0 and got it to work just fine?
As far as they know. Im sure TRD was just "playing it safe" when they decided that even the very low boost from a S/C needed a reflash and bigger injectors. What do the engineers from a multi-billion dollar company know?
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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I'm running a stage 0 kit that I got from ZPI a couple weeks ago. It runs a bit rich. Stock fuel system is more than capable of delivering enough fuel.

Stage 0 doesn't *need* an intercooler. The cost is $2,670.00, which if you don't want to or don't have the tools/experience necessary to build your own kit is a decent price. The next level kit (stage 1) does need it, and comes with it as well as fuel management and delivery components.

Buebie - first of all I think you're a bit confused - I have a stage 0 kit. What you're saying sounds like it's coming from Boost Factory, a would-be competitor for ZPI (If they ever actually make a kit) - so what do you think he's going to tell you. (I know because that's pretty much exactly what he told me.) He thinks he can do better - so I invite him to and I wish him the best. It'd be great to see another player in the Great Scionlife Turbo Kit War. It's just too late for me to buy from him.

If he does fab something up and comes on here to gauge interest and gets 50 orders for kits, makes them as quickly as possible to avoid being pooptalked (lots of work for 2 guys), ships them out in an acceptable timeframe (which on this board seems to be a couple of days) and then nobody blows up their engine or has other problems with them on the first design - I'll be the first to congratulate him. He said himself to me that there hasn't ever been a kit produced that fits right.

Well, this one did right out of the box and it kicks butt.
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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^^ You running a wideband?
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Very few peeps are still running Stage 0 without fuel management. Steeter, you will be installing engine management soon -You just haven't relized how much you need it yet.
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Streeter
I'm running a stage 0 kit that I got from ZPI a couple weeks ago. It runs a bit rich. Stock fuel system is more than capable of delivering enough fuel.

Stage 0 doesn't *need* an intercooler. The cost is $2,670.00, which if you don't want to or don't have the tools/experience necessary to build your own kit is a decent price. The next level kit (stage 1) does need it, and comes with it as well as fuel management and delivery components.

Buebie - first of all I think you're a bit confused - I have a stage 0 kit. What you're saying sounds like it's coming from Boost Factory, a would-be competitor for ZPI (If they ever actually make a kit) - so what do you think he's going to tell you. (I know because that's pretty much exactly what he told me.) He thinks he can do better - so I invite him to and I wish him the best. It'd be great to see another player in the Great Scionlife Turbo Kit War. It's just too late for me to buy from him.

If he does fab something up and comes on here to gauge interest and gets 50 orders for kits, makes them as quickly as possible to avoid being pooptalked (lots of work for 2 guys), ships them out in an acceptable timeframe (which on this board seems to be a couple of days) and then nobody blows up their engine or has other problems with them on the first design - I'll be the first to congratulate him. He said himself to me that there hasn't ever been a kit produced that fits right.

Well, this one did right out of the box and it kicks butt.
What I stated above hase absolutly nothing to do with boost factory. I have helped build/ been around modified cars for several years. I know how this stuff works. I am not bashing you. I'm just saying, this kit is crap compared to whats out there (not just boost factory). Anytime your running boost you want to cool that hot air. Thats why people buy aftermarket intercoolers on VW mazda speeds etc. The intercooler on thos cars is located in a warm spot. I've driven the MSP and the jetta...once the car warms up, it no longer feels as quick, because the oem IC is in a $hit spot. When those guys move it to a better local for the SMIC or get a nice sprayer system maybe a N02 pipe kit to the IC, or even the FMIC, they will see more hp. Now, imagine not running any type oif IC...thats all I'm saying. You guys are adding hundreds of degrees of hot air to the motor...its not good for it. All that I see outa the stage 0 is a freaking pipe a turine and a manifiold. Injectors are fine when your actually moving.
But now guys are stalling at a stopelight.

a decent Garret turbine: $5-700
a decent FMIC: $500
SMIC: $2-300
piping and couplers: maybe $100
decent BoV: $200

all this for around what you paid for the stage 0 and installed.

The problem is, you have to search for the right shop. Its not going to be easy...but everyone trusts this site, and if its for sale on scionlife it must be good. Dont forget that impule buyer...and now zpi is born.
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ERIC-TC
Very few peeps are still running Stage 0 without fuel management. Steeter, you will be installing engine management soon -You just haven't relized how much you need it yet.
My understanding was that very few people on here are running engine management with the ZPI Stage 0. They designed the turbo to run on stock injectors and with the stock computer. The tC's computer is more than capable of "learning" the map for the Stage 0. The Stage 1 requires more though, that is why they are shipped with the pre-programmed e-Manage.
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ERIC-TC
Is this for real? I cannot believe that you still don't have your money back.

-Eric- This is an e-mail that Keisha sent me last week, regarding my Stage 0 kit that was ordered in March 2006:

***
Eric,

I apologize for the delay in response, however our office was closed June
12th until today, June 20th. All of the components are in for the Stage 0
kits and they have began shipping, however our shipping department is
shipping orders per their original order date. They are currently working
on filling February orders and should be moving on to March orders later in
the week to early next week. At this point in time I hate to put an ETA on
your turbo kit as I do not have an accurate one to quote.

The reason that your other order is showing as delivered is because that
order has been merged with your turbo kit order and will be shipped with
your kit.

As for our return policy, a turbo kit is a custom order and is affected by
the 25% cancellation fee because at this point in time we do have the parts
to produce your order which negates it from falling under the
non-deliverable category. Refunds are issued on the 15th of every month and
are sent via certified check. There is an entire slew of information
available on our website if there is anything that I've missed. It can be
found at http://www.zeropointindustries.net/store/shipping.php.

I know that waiting can be very frustrating and I apologize for the delay
that you have experienced. I do hope that you chose to continue business
with ZPIracing as we strive to satisfy our customers. I can assure you that
you will be very pleased with your kit and that the wait is worth it! But
regardless, please let me know what you'd like to do!

Thanks Eric,

Keisha

***

So if this holds true I should be getting a tracking number for my stage 0 in a couple of weeks. I will let you know how this turns out.
How do you really know they have the parts in stock??



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