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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by B_Real45
Because certain electronics on the '07-08 are different.

Provide example please?
Different ECUs, different connectors, CAN/BUS communication for the OBD2 port and Guage counsel. Need I say more?
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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hey guys would you consider one of these?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1091801

http://www.hydraems.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=412
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Thats been out for quite a while

I spoke to the guy from element tuning a long time ago, about how difficult it would be to install on a scion tc =)

Procedure seems easy enough. Integration looks to be top notch with the hydra ^^
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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My friend's STi has the Hydra and Hydramist. It integrates perfectly. He can't say enough about the kit.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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I like the spiffy looking gauge its comes with.

*drooool*
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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Here's some pics - from my friend's STi







Old Aug 12, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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Would you happen to know his before figures?
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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385whp on pump

435whp on pump/meth
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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lmao, dammm....

Its a bit pricey, but i'd say its worth it.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ippskidder
lmao, dammm....

Its a bit pricey, but i'd say its worth it.
He's spent a lot of money on his car.. and to be honest, I think he's making too little power with the Hydra.

He has a GT35 cartridge with a smaller hotside - equal length runners - and ran the dyno at about 22-24psi.

I think they're going really conservative with the tuning. This was on a Mustang dyno - and apparently they didn't get the load settings right because once the car was on the street, the AFR (which was tuned for 11's on dyno) dropped to the 9's and the boost increased to close to 29.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
He's spent a lot of money on his car.. and to be honest, I think he's making too little power with the Hydra.

He has a GT35 cartridge with a smaller hotside - equal length runners - and ran the dyno at about 22-24psi.

I think they're going really conservative with the tuning. This was on a Mustang dyno - and apparently they didn't get the load settings right because once the car was on the street, the AFR (which was tuned for 11's on dyno) dropped to the 9's and the boost increased to close to 29.
I was thinking of getting this for my scion. But seeing as wheel spin is horrible as it is. I don't see the need to do that, lol.

I would consider it on my Z, in the future though.

Yea he definitely needs to get it retuned. My afr was 9.0 in boost. I only had an about an hour on the laptop (its my brothers). I was able to lean it out to about 9.8 - 10.0

Definitely a biiig difference. Hopefully I can get my hands on it soon, so I can lean it out to 11.0 - 11.5

I hope they gave your friend some store credit =p

The load must have definitely been way off >.<
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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Well the tuner he had flown in just for the tuning session - so the dyno shop (CFT in Orlando) provided the dyno and operator - the result is what I had posted.

After the dyno tuning, he and the tuner went on the street and noticed the AFR went way rich and the boost was much higher - so they started doing some street tuning and pulled the boost back down to around 26 where it was more stable.

So really, who knows what his *real* numbers are now - I can imagine higher.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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yeah his setup is sweet but he could get better numbers than that.. tuning conservative is nice considering he's already on the 400s but afrs on 9-10s are just too rich that its not good anymore.. But I drool to that setup he has, even the car haha
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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I'd race him....but I need a head start lmao.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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I'd say a roll will make a more fair race against AWD/RWD
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So trueeeee, so truuuueeeeeeee.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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So the hydramist, it integrates well with the hydra.. Will the aem meth/water injector do same thing with their standalone? I know aem is doing some integration with their other electronics
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They seem to have something similar. But not as tightly integrated as the hydra + hydramist.

When the hydramist water pressure lvl is low, it forces the hydra to auto switch from the auxiliar fuel/spark map (which +/- fuel/timing), to the base fuel/spark maps.

pwnage right there, lol.

But my knowledge on the aem is limited. Maybe mecanicapito can chime in.

It would be cool, to have gauges that work in conjunction with the hydra ^^ other than the hydramist gauge.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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^^ auto switching to basemap/normal map is sick!! i believe you can do same thing with race fuel, NOS or stuff like that

yeah someone tell us something about aem too, it should have similar or cooler features too since its more popular and been there longer
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace83
^^ auto switching to basemap/normal map is sick!! i believe you can do same thing with race fuel, NOS or stuff like that

yeah someone tell us something about aem too, it should have similar or cooler features too since its more popular and been there longer
Yea you can, do that with other stuff.

Well the last time I read up on aem's stuff was a few months ago, lol. Ever since I got the hydra I never looked any other directions =D

If AEM has something similar, that would be sick!!! and it would be about dam time too. Hydramist has been out for what, more than 2yrs?

If they don't, then they really need to get on the ball.



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