What's stock boost on the genesis? And can you raise the boost on the stock turbo and just upgrade the fuel delivery. I mean alot of evo guys do that just raise the boost alot on the factory turbo. A buddy of mines was bolt on and 26psi on factory turbo and was pretty close to me but then I passed him in 4th gear.

 

Finally went through the entire thread...lulz, very entertaining. You car is paid off, what more could you ask for. I would just keep it as a nice daily and purchase a new ride if you really feel the itch for something slightly better. Plus you didn't really seem enthusiastic/serious about boosting your tC. Personally my tC holds a bit of sentimental value, considering its my first. I will have it till I die. GL with your decision.

 

You obviously didn't search. These took me a whopping 3 seconds to find.

http://www.gencoupe.com/2-0t/22615-i...bo-system.html

http://www.gencoupe.com/media/36498-...ack-500hp.html

And of course they have to change out the fuel system, exhaust, turbo, ect. Name one car that has a stock fuel system that can support 3x the stock power output. Or how about an OEM car that has a turbo that can efficiently flow enough air to make 3x the stock HP? Lmfao Travis, you should know better than this.

 

I think what Travis meant is what's the point of buying a boosted car if your gonna replace the whole entire turbo system. Might as well buy a non boosted at or non boosted genesis.

 

Travis of all people should understand CFM and how it works, and know that cars are engineered to come from the factory with X amount of HP, and not X(3). The OEM turbo on the Gen Coupe maxes out at the 250whp mark. For a car that makes about 175whp stock, that's a pretty damn good jump, 42% more HP over stock.

 

First link not 500whp.

Second link is a built motor and 500whp...yay.

Let me put it into this perspective then to make it simple. I'm not impressed with the cars weight, it's power (we've seen those numbers before). If I pay $21+k for a sports car....I expect it to run faster than 15secs from the factory. What it's capable of after that is a different story, but what car isn't capable of performing with a good aftermarket support?

You said it has a great gain from a reflash....My thoughts is that it should already come with that reflashed power from the beginning...not that I should have to pay extra. Even then, what does it run like a 14sec 1/4 mile...simply put, I'm just not impressed with it. I was going to buy one actually but I'm not now. This is my opinion take it or leave it.




175whp = sad for a sports car. It's as fast as I was in my tC with just an exhaust on it, and that car has a turbo. That's my thing. It cost more and runs the same 1/4 mile times = failure to me, especially when it's RWD. Chaning all the gear on it to get the power you looking for, is the same as to a tC putting on a turbo kit on. The only advantage the Gen would have at that point is RWD, but that gets canceled out cause of it's weight.

 

Again, you're not realizing that the car has a 306HP V6 version. You're trying to be impressed with the economy version of the car. They didn't make the turbo version to be stupid fast, they made the turbo version to be the cheap, entry level variant that gets good gas mileage. You need to start looking at other factors, other than what Motor Trend ran the 1/4 mile in, because in real world driving, those numbers mean nothing at all.


And since you praise the non-existent FT86 so much, what does that run in the 1/4 mile? Oh that's right, it doesn't exist. How much does it weigh? Oh that's right, it doesn't exist. How much power does it make? Oh that's right, it doesn't exist.

So if the FT86 ever comes out and runs a 15+ second 1/4 mile, how much will your worship it?

 

 

Aren't you supposed to be trying to run 10's?

 

shouldnt you be trying to figure out why your pistons keep moving the wrong way?

 

 

Lmfao. Carbon if they made the turbo genesis to be the entry level genesis why degrade it and only make it 175 with turbo lol. For that ey should have thrown in higher comp pistons and achieve at least 200n/a. The 4cylinder genesis can't even beat a civic si stock. I gotta go with travis on this one.

 

What's the retail on the 306 V6 version? Also, just noticed on the LoveFab kit that they wanted $7199.00...OUCH! A Twin Turbo setup for my old 350z didn't even cost that much.

I have to disagree, "Economy Version" shouldn't come with a turbo, that's just my opinion again.

Just FYI...I didn't praise the FT-86 "so much" as you stated. I said I'm simply waiting (decided to wait) for it to come out instead of jumping and getting a GenCoupe.

If the FT-86 comes out and runs 15secs and cheaper than $21k than I'm good to go with it. But if it comes out, weighs like a tank and is underpowered and they want $21+k, then I'll just go and buy another 350z used with Twin Turbos already on it for cheaper.

 

Civic SI can still be considered an Economy car (especially when it comes in a 4 door sedan).

RWD + Turbo + coupe = Economy Version? Hmmm...be first time I've ever heard that. And then running 15sec 1/4 mile times = No Sale 4 Me.

 

They want $25k (starting) for the V6 version. I think we can exclude it from the line up. Not to mention, even that one runs 14's. My old 350z was still faster than that bone stock. I'd just pay $5k more and get a 370z instead..

 

if i was gonna trade in my tc, it would only be for one particular car, and only if i could get it used for right at or under $20,000 dollars...






...sorry, but for the out of the box-oem performance, aftermarket mod potential, and plain and simple sex appeal, a used lotus elise (which can be found down near 20k in good condition) is the way to go in my opinion. you can find nsx's pretty cheap now also.

 

When the turbo version is $4,000 cheaper and gets better gas mileage than the V6 version, then it can't be anything other than the economy version. It's almost like you're trying to compare the 15 second, $21k 2.0t Gen Coupe to the 13 second, $38k 370z. They're making 210HP out of a 2.0L, and it still gets 30MPG, despite weighing 3300lbs.

You do realize that LoveFab is basically the PTuning of the Hyundai world, right? And that they have a $5,000 version that doesn't include fuel management and their ehxuast. How much is a PTuning kit? $4200 without exhaust and fuel, right?

 

Who said anything about them degrading it to 175whp? Do you understand what reliability is? Do you understand who the EPA is?

So I guess Subaru 'degraded' my WRX since a tune/reflash can get me 50 more WHP.

So I guess Mitsubishi 'degraded' the Evo since a tune/reflash can get that 60 more WHP.

So I guess VW 'degraded' the GTI since a tune/reflash can give that more HP.

The list goes on for miles.

 

The Civic SI is the performance variant of an economy car. The 2.0t Gen Coupe is the economy version of a sports car. How do you not understand that?

V6 Mustang. Cheap, economy version of a sports car.
V6 Camaro. Cheap, economy version of a sports car.

 

Don't bring used cars into the debate. It'll bring up the inevitable "derp u can buy a 89 crx and turbo it for $40 and it wud smoke everything derp" comment.