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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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sure. right now, altered is installing an oil catch can, and then it is tune time!
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sigh...damn it all, okay, car got to the dyno today, started tuning idle and partial throttle, but there's a problem, the AEM f/ic isn't getting any MAP reading.

mike, the tuner hooked up to mo's tC to see whats going on and took a test ride with him, and the MAP sensor on his aem f/ic is giving a reading.

so either there is a problem with the aem f/ic i have, or a problem with the pnp harness, like needing a resistor or something. they said they should be able to figure it out, fix it and have it ready by tomorrow at 1.

they said to call them at 11 in the morning and see where it is at. damn, i was soo excited today and seeing it on the dyno, it sounds great too, but now there is a kink in the harness ruining everyhign.
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car sounded awesome tho hahaha
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car looked and sounded great. Sucked to wait so long to find out it was spending another night..... It'll be worth the wait drax
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i know, i know, i'm sure once i actually have the car and it is running good, this 8 day wait for everything will in retropect be completel worth it, just the emotional rollercoaster of excitement and anticipation leading to more waiting and waiting. it is like this log ride at walt disney world that has this huge huge waterfall plummet, but the ride itself is designed so that for like 5 minutes straight, you keep thinking you're nearly there, but it either fakes you out, or leads to a smaller shorter fall, and then finally at the end it delivers.
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
i know, i know, i'm sure once i actually have the car and it is running good, this 8 day wait for everything will in retropect be completel worth it, just the emotional rollercoaster of excitement and anticipation leading to more waiting and waiting. it is like this log ride at walt disney world that has this huge huge waterfall plummet, but the ride itself is designed so that for like 5 minutes straight, you keep thinking you're nearly there, but it either fakes you out, or leads to a smaller shorter fall, and then finally at the end it delivers.

lol well put, well atleast i can tell u forsure that the crew there is different than before and hopes are high, lol tho they think a tc turbo kit cant be installe din 2 hours LOL shame on them
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dude, they said if you can do it, you got a job there, sounds like a challenge! do it to it! lol

my guess is that if you're familiar with the car, yeah, you'll be faster than even a great mechanic who is tearing down and installing on a car he has never worked on before.
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nothing better then checking out ptunings map to figure out what your doing!
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
dude, they said if you can do it, you got a job there, sounds like a challenge! do it to it! lol

my guess is that if you're familiar with the car, yeah, you'll be faster than even a great mechanic who is tearing down and installing on a car he has never worked on before.

yea this is true i know if i had a car ahead of me that i never worked on id be slower when working with it

but i mean if they meant 2 hours to install turbomanifold,downpipe,oillines,turbo and wastegate i can do that in under 2 hours lol i just might have me a new job lol without a ASE certification
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forgot to add intercooler and pipes too
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nothing better then checking out ptunings map to figure out what your doing!
yeah, but me and mo are running different kits with different turbos and different injector sizes. the problem is how are you supposed to tune with any MAP readings?

he was checking the wiring to make sure mine was hooked up right and such, but for some reason, mine just isn't sending that signal. again, hopefully i'll be on the road tomorrow!
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
yeah, but me and mo are running different kits with different turbos and different injector sizes. the problem is how are you supposed to tune with any MAP readings?

he was checking the wiring to make sure mine was hooked up right and such, but for some reason, mine just isn't sending that signal. again, hopefully i'll be on the road tomorrow!

Check and make sure the reset button is not stuck in..

ive never seen or had that happen.. were did you tap the vacume line for the fic?
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lol, the reset buttons stuck. not sure where the vac lines are, they're probably tapped into the world racing intake manifold i'm using since it was already tapped and everything.
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
sigh...damn it all, okay, car got to the dyno today, started tuning idle and partial throttle, but there's a problem, the AEM f/ic isn't getting any MAP reading.

mike, the tuner hooked up to mo's tC to see whats going on and took a test ride with him, and the MAP sensor on his aem f/ic is giving a reading.

so either there is a problem with the aem f/ic i have, or a problem with the pnp harness, like needing a resistor or something. they said they should be able to figure it out, fix it and have it ready by tomorrow at 1.

they said to call them at 11 in the morning and see where it is at. damn, i was soo excited today and seeing it on the dyno, it sounds great too, but now there is a kink in the harness ruining everyhign.
I know we've had our differences in the past, but what you were quoted by your shop doesn't make any sense.

If your AEM F/IC MAP sensor was not functioning properly they would not be able to tune a single load point.....not even idle, much less partial throttle.

The AEM F/IC has it's internal MAP Sensor soldered to the circuit board. The PnP harness, resistor mod, etc. is not going to fix a broken onboard MAP Sensor. So I'm not sure how they would be able to somehow fix that problem and have your car ready by tomorrow at one o'clock, unless they plan on swapping out a new F/IC box for you.

Also, I'm not sure why they would have to get a ride in Mo's car to see that his MAP sensor is functioning properly and that your's is not. They could have started your engine and within two seconds figure out that your ONBOARD F/IC Map Sensor was faulty, since there would be no vertical tracing on any of the tuning maps. This will immediately tell you that you have a bad F/IC Box, plain and simple.

I just hope that the F/IC map that we developed and tuned for Mo's PTUNING Turbo System wasn't simply copied and used as a base map for your car. This is for the simple fact that if they need to see Mo's mapping to figure out what the settings need to be and what the tuning requirements are for the F/IC then you may be in for some rough times with your new set-up and tune, especially with a TRD ECU.

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Originally Posted by Ptuning_tuner
I know we've had our differences in the past, but what you were quoted by your shop doesn't make any sense.

If your AEM F/IC MAP sensor was not functioning properly they would not be able to tune a single load point.....not even idle, much less partial throttle.

The AEM F/IC has it's internal MAP Sensor soldered to the circuit board. The PnP harness, resistor mod, etc. is not going to fix a broken onboard MAP Sensor. So I'm not sure how they would be able to somehow fix that problem and have your car ready by tomorrow at one o'clock, unless they plan on swapping out a new F/IC box for you.

Also, I'm not sure why they would have to get a ride in Mo's car to see that his MAP sensor is functioning properly and that your's is not. They could have started your engine and within two seconds figure out that your ONBOARD F/IC Map Sensor was faulty, since there would be no vertical tracing on any of the tuning maps. This will immediately tell you that you have a bad F/IC Box, plain and simple.

I just hope that the F/IC map that we developed and tuned for Mo's PTUNING Turbo System wasn't simply copied and used as a base map for your car. This is for the simple fact that if they need to see Mo's mapping to figure out what the settings need to be and what the tuning requirements are for the F/IC then you may be in for some rough times with your new set-up and tune, especially with a TRD ECU.

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hey toan i was there during this whole ordeal couldnt they tune the car without the map sensor being plugged because they were adjusting stuff and the car was at a 11afr at wot but for somereason he couldnt get a map reading, and dont worry he didnt copy mo's tune
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
lol, the reset buttons stuck. not sure where the vac lines are, they're probably tapped into the world racing intake manifold i'm using since it was already tapped and everything.

So it was stuck or ur being sarcastic?
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i never posted this but i guess now is a good time...

one guy sent me his fic for repair (he had gotten the flash (little white thing in the pics) button stuck by sticking a safety pin in it...lol) while i had his fic apart i noticed a few things, the biggest thing i seen was the fact that the rubber tube thats inside the fic leading to the internal map sensor is spliced and has a tiny filter in it. at those splices the connections seemed lose to me so i added some zipties to it to keep them from comeing off....its worth a shot to check..

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its very possible this vac hose may not seal...hope this helps any

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Originally Posted by Ptuning_tuner
I know we've had our differences in the past, but what you were quoted by your shop doesn't make any sense.

If your AEM F/IC MAP sensor was not functioning properly they would not be able to tune a single load point.....not even idle, much less partial throttle.

The AEM F/IC has it's internal MAP Sensor soldered to the circuit board. The PnP harness, resistor mod, etc. is not going to fix a broken onboard MAP Sensor. So I'm not sure how they would be able to somehow fix that problem and have your car ready by tomorrow at one o'clock, unless they plan on swapping out a new F/IC box for you.

Also, I'm not sure why they would have to get a ride in Mo's car to see that his MAP sensor is functioning properly and that your's is not. They could have started your engine and within two seconds figure out that your ONBOARD F/IC Map Sensor was faulty, since there would be no vertical tracing on any of the tuning maps. This will immediately tell you that you have a bad F/IC Box, plain and simple.

I just hope that the F/IC map that we developed and tuned for Mo's PTUNING Turbo System wasn't simply copied and used as a base map for your car. This is for the simple fact that if they need to see Mo's mapping to figure out what the settings need to be and what the tuning requirements are for the F/IC then you may be in for some rough times with your new set-up and tune, especially with a TRD ECU.

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if he's on the trd tune..

He's got another ball game going!

The trd computer is already pulling alot of timing! And adding fuel! So when you maf sensor is seeing the boost its pulling timing adding fuel! Since you cant add timing with the fic. your timing map is going to look very diff then others maps! As well you should be pulling alot more fuel and ur going to need to probably clamp the maf sooner to not have the trd tune do its wot settings.!

and ur o2 readings are going to be heavily diff since the trd tune is trying to achive 12.6 part throttle already!


Good luck!

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add timeing? you cant advance timeing with the fic....lol....i know what you ment just messing with ya..
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Originally Posted by crush02342002
add timeing? you cant advance timeing with the fic....lol....i know what you ment just messing with ya..

Whoops shoulda read that before posting..
thats what i ment since you cant add timing



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